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[The Man]

It would be wierd for Knuckles government to wait so long to intervene. This is where adding Sonic Team elements don't work anymore because any non-rogue(No pun intended this time)group should form within a year of the coup.

Robotnik's pollution causing the greenhouse gases to rise would force the Mobians decisive actions. Is it really up to us to provide unforseen and unpredictable scenarios Ben can never use?

Yes, someone has to delve into the politics of it all.

[Vlad Yvhv]

Eventually, he'd need to be put back in power or done away with and end the series. Really, Robotnik is probly the best-suited to be the series villain. It falls into a sort of Coyote vs Roadrunner, Boss Hogg vs the Dukes, or Smokey vs the Bandit situation. Without one, the other isn't as effective and generally doesn't work as well.

It would be a bit odd for more organized groups to suddenly join in the fight, after over 10 years. More likely, Robotnik would have decimated all truly organized groups on the planet, leaving any who managed to escape in perty much the same boat as the Freedom Fighters. Those not located near Robotropolis or actively sought out for complete destruction, would be more concerned about rebuilding and surviving than launching attacks against Robotnik and drawing attention to themselves.

[The Man]

I think it was mentioned the Great Jungle is uncharted. If there's plants that could eat metal and voids that suck people in, I have a feeling that these are left-over monuments from past civilizations.

Like the pyramid's from Egypt. I did point this out before. I have a feeling the Void was invented by us after Julian left if you go by that backstory.

I did write one fic about the future of the FF's. It's not like the past is very intruiging minus DD's fics. There's too many things you could like and/or dislike?



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[Vlad Yvhv]

Hmm... That would be interesting to see... Just how such a place as the Void could be created...

[The Man]

The same way shadows and reflections are made.

[roxannihilation]

A lot of people know, especially on SMS, that I was very fond of Hurst's plans for the third season but more or less along the lines of the character development that he would implement with Julian and Snively. It meant a lot in my eyes to give their backstory more depth than anyone, and as the token humans of the series they deserved the special attention. His ideas were so believable but at the same time really fresh and very interesting in my mind. I would have loved to have seen this fleshed out in a script at least. The whole ordeal of him coming back to Earth in a futuristic setting would have been an amazing plotpoint.

The Snively heel-face turn makes my mind totally wander. I try to think about how Snively would even fold to Sonic, all I know is it would be some serious comedy.

[Lord Exor]

I failed to make mention of this earlier, but I would have Robotnik eventually make a play at godhood. All narcissistic fantasy/sci-fi dicators of his caliber will eventually attempt apotheosis.

[roxannihilation]

I failed to make mention of this earlier, but I would have Robotnik eventually make a play at godhood. All narcissistic fantasy/sci-fi dicators of his caliber will eventually attempt apotheosis.

Eh I was sure he was already consumed in a bit of a Messianic complex given his status as all-powerful mechanical emperor, but I'm sure he hasn't fully reached A God Am I status probably because as a scientist he might not be very religious or even think there are such things as Gods, but insanity can do all kinds of wacky things. That'd be pretty great.

I imagined him being so consumed with power that he'd eventually come to struggle with his own mental state and possibly hate it, as he's left with no conflict to confront.

[Vlad Yvhv]

I always figured him as being psychopathic...

[Lord Exor]

Eh I was sure he was already consumed in a bit of a Messianic complex given his status as all-powerful mechanical emperor, but I'm sure he hasn't fully reached A God Am I status probably because as a scientist he might not be very religious or even think there are such things as Gods, but insanity can do all kinds of wacky things. That'd be pretty great.

Technically, SatAM never touched upon Robotnik's messiah complex. It was briefly addressed in issue #43 of Archie, their BttP adaption. In it, Robotnik outright referred to himself as the savior of Mobius, bringing "order from chaos" and believing himself to be accomplishing what's best for all. Unfortunately, this aspect of his character was never highlighted again.

Of course, we can presume this to be the case with SatAM Robotnik as well. Furthermore, whether or not Robotnik believes in an incorporeal higher power is immaterial--it doesn't preclude the likely possibility that Robotnik's malignant narcissism would escalate to the point where godhood is the next milestone to be sought after in his relentless pursuit of greater power.

[Metallou]

Eh I was sure he was already consumed in a bit of a Messianic complex given his status as all-powerful mechanical emperor, but I'm sure he hasn't fully reached A God Am I status probably because as a scientist he might not be very religious or even think there are such things as Gods, but insanity can do all kinds of wacky things. That'd be pretty great.

Technically, SatAM never touched upon Robotnik's messiah complex. It was briefly addressed in issue #43 of Archie, their BttP adaption. In it, Robotnik outright referred to himself as the savior of Mobius, bringing "order from chaos" and believing himself to be accomplishing what's best for all. Unfortunately, this aspect of his character was never highlighted again.

Of course, we can presume this to be the case with SatAM Robotnik as well. Furthermore, whether or not Robotnik believes in an incorporeal higher power is immaterial--it doesn't preclude the likely possibility that Robotnik's malignant narcissism would escalate to the point where godhood is the next milestone to be sought after in his relentless pursuit of greater power.

Makes me think of Iron Patriot's case, when Norman Osborn killed a Queen Brood which bring chaos on earth, and the same Osborn became a worldwide hero, who shadowed the rest of the heroes, especially Iron Man, who is wanted dead or alive (for some reason that I don't remember)
So with this, Osborn made a group of villain, including Venom, and ruled the world. This is, for me, an alternate point of view of the term "end of the world"

[Mithrandir]

A lot of people know, especially on SMS, that I was very fond of Hurst's plans for the third season but more or less along the lines of the character development that he would implement with Julian and Snively. It meant a lot in my eyes to give their backstory more depth than anyone, and as the token humans of the series they deserved the special attention. His ideas were so believable but at the same time really fresh and very interesting in my mind. I would have loved to have seen this fleshed out in a script at least. The whole ordeal of him coming back to Earth in a futuristic setting would have been an amazing plotpoint.

The Snively heel-face turn makes my mind totally wander. I try to think about how Snively would even fold to Sonic, all I know is it would be some serious comedy.

Oddly enough, I have to admit that Julian's backstory was one aspect of Archie that I kind of preferred over Ben's ideas. I loved the whole idea of humans surviving to the future, but Robotnik being debased and vile enough to betray his entire race. It opens up many dramatic possibilities.

He and Snively coming from the past isn't a bad idea, per se, but I just like the depth of the other story of how he became "Warlord Julian". That, and Robotnik actually being from the past wouldn't explain his lack of knowledge of United States geography. :-P

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