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Sally/Khan

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#81 Massagraf

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 04:32 AM

I predict there will be happy SonSal-fans in a few months...

On Archie Blogs' preview of issue #212, it sais:
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Will Princess Sally make a final choice of who to set her heart on? The answers to these and other questions await in this intriguing tale!

That question is retorical and can only be yes, I really doubt they'll decide to be a threesome. And obviously won't be Khan. He'll just go back to the rainforest of whatever the hell he came from and we hopefully won't see him for a long time, that's predictable. And as many of you already said, he's just a filler and it won't last long. So if it's not Khan... it'll be Sonic. het.gif

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:27 AM

Unfortunately (for me) it's a little hard to get excited by this. You just know any type of Sonic/Sally relationship comeback, in the pages of Archie, is going to feel very undeserved. I like my Sonic/Sally stuff to mean something; and not just a means-to-an-end plot device because the boring filler guy has run his course.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 02:50 AM

The whole business with Sally/Khan seems more like a NO U PR stunt towards his accusational critics than anything else, so.. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he continues their relationship after this arc if for only that purpose.

But even then, I doubt they'll stay together, though. Especially since Sally/Khan and everything about Khan in general at this point is too poorly written and contrived to gain a very high support rating by fans.

I won't deny the possibility that Sally could go running back to Sonic either for some reason or another, but I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't for awhile.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:38 PM

One of the biggest reasons I do not hold in good faith what Ian's doing is because Khan is obviously so much like Sonic. If Ian wanted to communicate that Sonic and Sally were not meant for each other he'd probably find a guy for her that offers her something Sonic can’t to drive the point home. Or at least have Sally acknowledge after all that's happened to her, why a relationship won't work. Now he's writing in all of what Sonic can do, that Khan isn't doing, as if to suggest Khan's a Sonic clone that isn't even good enough because he doesn’t have the history with Sally Sonic does.

For example, as I said recently Sonic and Sally are both independent characters. Sonic is by and large wish fulfillment for Sally because she was forced to behave differently to be professional and because there was once a time on the field where that professionalism was needed. Only recently has she been put in any position to actually remove her veil completely. But instead of actually acknowledge Sonic was simply a wish fulfillment, she doesn't. Instead of removing that "professional" persona after discarding her responsibilities in governing, Sally becomes a field leader. Wherein which an incredibly independent person is stuck back in the role she used to have. Ian doesn't want to give up the kind of relationship Sonic and Sally had for each other, which is why in part, he's not at all convincing.. He refuses to accept the cost it'd make for Sally to disregard the very professionalism that made her capable of foiling Sonic in the ways he enjoyed.

If Flynn really was interested in seeing Sally move on he would have acknowledged this by now. He would have acknowledged in her private life, she's been a historically independent girl who. She looks out for number one but is also no damsel. This aspect to Sally so akin to Sonic, to the point she'd idolize him to the degree she does, would need to be foiled by someone who can actually put the reigns on her attitude. It's no wonder Val likes Sally/Mina X3. But this person wouldn’t regularly contribute to battle because of the fears she has over losing someone like that. I may have had more confidence in Flynn having a genuine interest in communicating Sonic and Sally need to move on, but it doesn't actually seem that way. The way he's doing it seems mostly to cover his ass. When the older writers made a triangle to have a real potential love interest, at least they considered what that character has that the rival doesn’t. For Flynn Sonic is perfect for Sally. So the only way Sally could possibly fall for someone else is if she were given someone who was just like him.

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE (Miko @ Feb 5 2010, 06:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One of the biggest reasons I do not hold in good faith what Ian's doing is because Khan is obviously so much like Sonic. If Ian wanted to communicate that Sonic and Sally were not meant for each other he'd probably find a guy for her that offers her something Sonic can’t to drive the point home. Or at least have Sally acknowledge after all that's happened to her, why a relationship won't work. Now he's writing in all of what Sonic can do, that Khan isn't doing, as if to suggest Khan's a Sonic clone that isn't even good enough because he doesn’t have the history with Sally Sonic does.

For example, as I said recently Sonic and Sally are both independent characters. Sonic is by and large wish fulfillment for Sally because she was forced to behave differently to be professional and because there was once a time on the field where that professionalism was needed. Only recently has she been put in any position to actually remove her veil completely. But instead of actually acknowledge Sonic was simply a wish fulfillment, she doesn't. Instead of removing that "professional" persona after discarding her responsibilities in governing, Sally becomes a field leader. Wherein which an incredibly independent person is stuck back in the role she used to have. Ian doesn't want to give up the kind of relationship Sonic and Sally had for each other, which is why in part, he's not at all convincing.. He refuses to accept the cost it'd make for Sally to disregard the very professionalism that made her capable of foiling Sonic in the ways he enjoyed.

If Flynn really was interested in seeing Sally move on he would have acknowledged this by now. He would have acknowledged in her private life, she's been a historically independent girl who. She looks out for number one but is also no damsel. This aspect to Sally so akin to Sonic, to the point she'd idolize him to the degree she does, would need to be foiled by someone who can actually put the reigns on her attitude. It's no wonder Val likes Sally/Mina X3. But this person wouldn’t regularly contribute to battle because of the fears she has over losing someone like that. I may have had more confidence in Flynn having a genuine interest in communicating Sonic and Sally need to move on, but it doesn't actually seem that way. The way he's doing it seems mostly to cover his ass. When the older writers made a triangle to have a real potential love interest, at least they considered what that character has that the rival doesn’t. For Flynn Sonic is perfect for Sally. So the only way Sally could possibly fall for someone else is if she were given someone who was just like him.


This actually makes a lot of sense in retrospect. From the way it looks now, Khan will leave after the end of the Iron Dominion story arc, and Sally will get back together with Sonic because being with Khan made her realize how much she missed him. O_o

I could be wrong, but at this point it looks like that's where Ian's agenda is leaning.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 11:33 PM

The title of Sonic Universe #15 is "No Love In A Conquering Storm , So it makes me wonder how Ian plans to do this. One of my guesses is it will be relevled to Sally, that Kahn tried to take NICOLE out peremently while she and Sonic were in the Digital World of Mobius. Or another guess, is Sonic may get Kahn to admit that he's just with Sally, so in the end, he can try and make her his Queen.

But those are just my guesses.

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 02:03 PM

QUOTE (Miko @ Nov 30 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, as Sonic grams and other previews for the comic have made obvious, Sally is falling in love with Monkey Khan. I personally don't think much is going to come out of it. I mean, Ian admitted to being a SonSal fan a few years back then he broke up Sonic and Fiona and made her totally OOC to do so in order to go out with Scourge. Excuse me but, this was the same character who went OUT with Sonic because he was a virtuous-hero good guy and she realized after his saving the Xordra that he couldn't be the selfish bad boy she once took him for. So how Ian got the idea she could eventually "find out" he was this way and no longer like him eludes me. If she really wanted him to be like Scourge why did she chastize Sonic for being selfish? For showing traits anything like him. No. Fiona choosing to go back to her old lifestyle because Scourge comes to pick her up is...ridiculous.

And Scourge ditched Fiona for Rouge. Ian's excuse for just ignoring Rouge and heading after Fiona is that Rouge left him. And yeah? According to his own writing Fiona ditches Scourge to be a Freedom Fighter and the "virtuous hero" Sonic's lover. So again, warping the characters incredibly out of proportion and forcing them onto one another to break Sonic up with his then girlfriend and not an issue later, you see him back to FLIRTING with Sally.

Then of course a review that miraculously dissapeared finds it's way back online, reveals Ian's a SonSal fan and is aligned with all his other moves and then we SUDDENLY get a Sally/Monkey Khan moment and his asking the fans to tell him what he thinks. Huh? I Don't have a whole lot of faith in the sincerity of this. I wouldn't be at all surprised that should he pair Sonic and Sally off, it's basis will be in the fan demand that he asked for after dropping a bomb like this. And really, a lot of Sally's fans are probably not going to be happy simply because it's Khan the emo, moody Ash mach II who is less easy on the eyes. Unless these two get married, Sonic shows NO heavy objections and we perhaps see some loosening up on his other love interests (and that means finally writing Fiona in character), I'm probably not going to take these actions seriously. He always reacts with a PR stunt whenever it becomes blatantly obvious what he's headed.


I couldn't agree with you more on this. Pairing Sally with Khan was a bomb nobody expected.

The logic behind it makes absolutely no sense. Sally dates Khan to help her relationship with Sonic? wacko.gif

If she wanted to make Sonic jealous so he'll want to try again with her, that's understandable.

But after seeing some of the latest issues, that is certainly not the case. If anything, her friendship with him seems to be weakening. SU #13 was an definitely one that raised a few eyebrows.

At this point, I just shrug my shoulders at Ian's writing. Where he's going with the Sonic series and this relationship, nobody knows.

I hope he does bring Sonic and Sally back together, but I'm not gonna hold my breath over it anytime soon. He seems to be in no hurry to restore this pair to their former glory.
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 02:34 PM

QUOTE (LaserX5 @ Mar 5 2010, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Miko @ Nov 30 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, as Sonic grams and other previews for the comic have made obvious, Sally is falling in love with Monkey Khan. I personally don't think much is going to come out of it. I mean, Ian admitted to being a SonSal fan a few years back then he broke up Sonic and Fiona and made her totally OOC to do so in order to go out with Scourge. Excuse me but, this was the same character who went OUT with Sonic because he was a virtuous-hero good guy and she realized after his saving the Xordra that he couldn't be the selfish bad boy she once took him for. So how Ian got the idea she could eventually "find out" he was this way and no longer like him eludes me. If she really wanted him to be like Scourge why did she chastize Sonic for being selfish? For showing traits anything like him. No. Fiona choosing to go back to her old lifestyle because Scourge comes to pick her up is...ridiculous.

And Scourge ditched Fiona for Rouge. Ian's excuse for just ignoring Rouge and heading after Fiona is that Rouge left him. And yeah? According to his own writing Fiona ditches Scourge to be a Freedom Fighter and the "virtuous hero" Sonic's lover. So again, warping the characters incredibly out of proportion and forcing them onto one another to break Sonic up with his then girlfriend and not an issue later, you see him back to FLIRTING with Sally.

Then of course a review that miraculously dissapeared finds it's way back online, reveals Ian's a SonSal fan and is aligned with all his other moves and then we SUDDENLY get a Sally/Monkey Khan moment and his asking the fans to tell him what he thinks. Huh? I Don't have a whole lot of faith in the sincerity of this. I wouldn't be at all surprised that should he pair Sonic and Sally off, it's basis will be in the fan demand that he asked for after dropping a bomb like this. And really, a lot of Sally's fans are probably not going to be happy simply because it's Khan the emo, moody Ash mach II who is less easy on the eyes. Unless these two get married, Sonic shows NO heavy objections and we perhaps see some loosening up on his other love interests (and that means finally writing Fiona in character), I'm probably not going to take these actions seriously. He always reacts with a PR stunt whenever it becomes blatantly obvious what he's headed.


I couldn't agree with you more on this. Pairing Sally with Khan was a bomb nobody expected.

The logic behind it makes absolutely no sense. Sally dates Khan to help her relationship with Sonic? wacko.gif

If she wanted to make Sonic jealous so he'll want to try again with her, that's understandable.

But after seeing some of the latest issues, that is certainly not the case. If anything, her friendship with him seems to be weakening. SU #13 was an definitely one that raised a few eyebrows.

At this point, I just shrug my shoulders at Ian's writing. Where he's going with the Sonic series and this relationship, nobody knows.

I hope he does bring Sonic and Sally back together, but I'm not gonna hold my breath over it anytime soon. He seems to be in no hurry to restore this pair to their former glory.


If you read my above post Laser, then you may see, that I give my own thoughts on Sally/Kahn.

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 08:37 PM

I'll actually be fair on this one: the same issue where Sally asks Khan out has a scene where she goes to Bunnie for "guy advice", and Bunnie essentially says "What's the harm in dating a guy? You go out a few times and see if you have something. If you don't, no big deal."

So I don't read this as Sally falling head over heels for Khan, but just that, after all the years of Sonic being really the only guy in her life (brief hookup with St. John excluded), she kind of owes it to herself to go out and explore what else is out there. Not surprisingly, she's pretty quickly drawn to a guy who has things in common with Sonic, since, well...that certainly seems to be the personality type she's drawn to.

That said, my excusing it goes out the window if within two issues they're already treating it like there's some sort of blossoming giant romance going on. That's something that's always irked me in this medium; it seems like it's not enough to just depict some pairing dating now and then, or just being "not really serious" boyfriend/girlfriend, it's always either "OMG TRU LUV 4EVA" or nothing. If they can depict just a casual "We're seeing each other, but we don't know if it'll go any further than that" vibe, then good for them, but it feels very rare.

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 09:29 PM

If you read my above post Laser, then you may see, that I give my own thoughts on Sally/Kahn.
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Yes, I read your post.

But that doesn't mean I don't still don't have my doubts about this.

I would be thrilled if your guess was right and the Khan/Sally love relationship was finished, but Ian is very unpredicatable as a writer.

While SU #15 and #213 give hints it's over, we won't know until they're released.
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