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[Shadow]

Here is a good show of his face by the new toy.I am pissed.

The original Freddy was supposed to look inhumane, as he was a walking avatar of pain. No regular human could endure the burns he had and live which fell into the dream logic even more that he was such a overblown nightmare reflecting reality that the skin was on the verge of melting off his body.
Wheres the permanent scowl,the grin,the hook nose,and the gaping holes all along his cheeks?

This Freddy fails so hard.By trying to pull the realism tactic,the makeup effects have fallen short by 60 years. This Freddy doesn't even look all that badly burnt. Second degree burns that have healed over. Look at Two Face from The Dark Knight.He looked WAY worse and was alot more horrifying to look at.

This is the Freddy we should have got.

[John Roberts]

That's just the toy, right? It isn't exactly film quality there. I'm still in the wait and see camp before I go all hateful. I remember the 'hatred' that followed the very early shots of Heath Ledger as the Joker, and we all know how great that turned out.

[John Roberts]

Saw? Kinda not. It's a bankable franchise, that's for sure. Doesn't mean it's iconic.

[Xian Shade]

Saw has two things going for it that Nightmare didn't: ongoing story, and (usually) self-inflicting pain and death.

I will admit that the new image of Freddy DOES look more like a serious burn victim (I've seen a few, went to kindergarden with one) and the lack of serious lighting/background might be throwing off the 'good' look he might have. I never minded it before, but looking at images of the old Freddy, he kinda looks more like someone with Leprosy rather than someone who was burnt...

But like I said before, all this change is naught unless our new bogeyman can pull off the same mentality as the old bogeyman.

[Shadow]

From what I read, its a rehash duplicate of the original NOES film. Except it doesn't have the blood geyser death. I'm probably the most hardcore Freddy fan around here and to me, it feels like this film is being made for all the wrong reasons. Its just a simple cash grab on the remake band wagon. What the hell was wrong with just making a new Freddy movie with a numberless title so it could go at any given point and time? Robert Englund was not too fucking old to play Freddy. He's only in his 60's and has had stunt doubles through all the films do the hard parts for him. Freddy vs Jason proved the actor was more than capable of still doing the character where he did the most physical acting in all, and that film was only made 6 years ago.

SAW was not memorable for Jigsaw the character but the traps themselves. The gore itself took over as the center point of the series with Jigsaws presence downplayed with each movie grasping at thinner straws to conceive new reasons for him to keep doing this. See, Jigsaw is a human that wasn't meant for a long lasting franchise, which is why it should have never started at all. He's a sickly old man who was going to die. He isn't a monster bound by magic, eternal vengeance,or some kind of spiritual voodoo ties to the real world that makes him eternal. He's dead. And having the villain being replaced by sub par prodigal's is a terrible idea. Anyone remember Friday the 13th part 5?

See,what made Freddy balance out was he was a monster but he still looked and acted human. He had the mannerisms and face of a person, but was a horrible creature at the same time. He was what many horror films have been trying to do these days with downplaying the monsters to make them seem more 'human' and thus more scary. That kind of cripples the character in the long run for giving them a short leash to grow on screen.

[Vlad Yvhv]

Indeed. Freddy is not an entirely unique character, but rather an interpretation of the old Trickster archetype. Much like some of the darker stories involving Coyote, he may make you laugh, but then he'll eviscerate you while your defenses are down. Or even drop an anvil on you, which is a comedic and horrific situation combined. It's in the trickster's nature to utilize comedy. It has been since advent of such beings and it will be so long as the archetype endures (potentially long after humans are extinct).

[John Roberts]

Saw the trailer today. Freddy was so... bland.

[Vlad Yvhv]

Hell, no... It's going the way of other remakes of good movies: straight down the crapper! Why're you so hung-up on the idea, anyway?