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A Nightmare on Elm Street remake.
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Posted 22 September 2009 - 07:19 AM
New Line Cinema with Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes company are gonna reboot the beloved horror franchise back on it's feet, replacing Robert Englund will be Jackie Earl Haley who played Roscache in "Watchmen" is gonna be Freddy Krueger.
There has been some excellent horror remakes of the past to today such as "The Thing", "The Fly", "Dawn of the Dead", "The Hills Have Eyes", "Last House on The Left", "The Blob", "Invasion of the Body Snatchers 1978", "My Bloody Valentine 3D" etc. with some average ones like "Night of the Living Dead", "Halloween", "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" etc. and some stinkers like "Psycho", "The Fog" etc. and i hope this will be great or average.
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Posted 22 September 2009 - 08:52 AM
Robert Englund IS Freddy Kruger, frankly it's disrespectful to the fans to replace him at this point. But I was never big on Nightmare on Elmstreet anyway. The only slasher series I ever really enjoyed was Halloween (and Rob Zombie has SNAFU'd that reboot bigtime) so thoroughly not interested in this remake.
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Posted 22 September 2009 - 10:27 AM
I've never understood the need to remake horror films, especially this one. Nightmare on Elm Street was a good movie, why mess with it? What exactly could you change to make it better than the original? It screams of cash in.
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Posted 23 September 2009 - 09:04 AM
What about the other remakes i mentioned?
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Posted 23 September 2009 - 05:07 PM
This is as bad a move as the idea to remake Evil Dead without Ash... As Ratty mentioned, Robert Englund essentially is Freddy. So, anyone else trying to pull off the roll will fail.
The trend of remaking is just to cash in in the franchise names without having to pay for the proper actors to make another sequel. For example, Don Coscarelli turned down the offer to remake Phantasm, but said that he would make Phantasm 5, if the studio wanted to continue pursuing the franchise.
The trend of remaking is just to cash in in the franchise names without having to pay for the proper actors to make another sequel. For example, Don Coscarelli turned down the offer to remake Phantasm, but said that he would make Phantasm 5, if the studio wanted to continue pursuing the franchise.
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Posted 23 September 2009 - 06:08 PM
Given Platinum Dunes' reputation, I'm guessing this film will be average at best. Though maybe people would like it better than some of the sequels since I heard Freddy's supposed to be more menacing. I'm curious to see how Haley will pull off Freddy (though I haven't seen any of the Nightmare films).
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Posted 23 September 2009 - 09:33 PM
Freddy's supposed to be a "cruel clown" type of trickster character... It's not really him that's scary. It's what he does. Like fusing a guy to his bike, or exploding a deaf kid's head with a modified hearing aid, or turning a girl in to a cockroach and squashing her inside a roach motel... It's the fact that he can kill you in your sleep that makes him scary...
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Posted 23 September 2009 - 10:17 PM
I've known about this for awhile.I'm furious Robert Englund,who built Freddy up from the ground and made him a living breathing organism on screen has been deprived of his greatest achievement because Michael Bay thought he was too old.Bullshit! He was in Freddy vs Jason back in 2003 and he moved great for his age.Also,he always used stunt doubles for the hard stuff so I don't see what the point is.Remakes are not the answer for dead franchises.We need just sequels that have good stories that tell enough to let the new people in but keep it its own story.
Rob Zombies Halloween films I hate with a burning passion.I don't care if it his little version and wasn't trying to copy Carpenter,he totally fucking buried the integrity of the character making the former films look like a joke.
I've accepted Jackie would make a good Freddy since we have no choice but to accept this new Freddy but it won't be the same.I think that this new Freddy will not have any of the charm and just be an angry demonic person.
Rob Zombies Halloween films I hate with a burning passion.I don't care if it his little version and wasn't trying to copy Carpenter,he totally fucking buried the integrity of the character making the former films look like a joke.
I've accepted Jackie would make a good Freddy since we have no choice but to accept this new Freddy but it won't be the same.I think that this new Freddy will not have any of the charm and just be an angry demonic person.
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 02:21 PM
Robert Englund took a burned demonic child abuser who kills innocent people in their dreams and made people like him. All with a gift for sardonic black humor. I don't care which Watchman you played, that's gonna be a hard act to follow, just sayin'...
Though, again, the only slasher I ever personally enjoyed was Michael Myers. And Rob Zombie, with his obsession with Charles Manson etc. all, TOTTALLY missed the point of Halloween.
Which is to have a wraith-like killer who is the silent embodiment of evil. A voiceless and ultimately unknowable apparition, flickering between the possibly supernatural and the all too believable.
Not just some random serial killer with mommy issues. Myers is a force of nature, that's the point! (Though, to be fair, the original series started going downhill after #2 and thanks to studio interference never stopped.)
Ugh, I could go on but I'll just stop the NERDRAGE there. TheSpoonyOne explained it well in small pieces in his overlong review of Zombie's "Halloween 2" ( http://www.spoonyexp...09-halloween-2/ )
Though, again, the only slasher I ever personally enjoyed was Michael Myers. And Rob Zombie, with his obsession with Charles Manson etc. all, TOTTALLY missed the point of Halloween.
Which is to have a wraith-like killer who is the silent embodiment of evil. A voiceless and ultimately unknowable apparition, flickering between the possibly supernatural and the all too believable.
Not just some random serial killer with mommy issues. Myers is a force of nature, that's the point! (Though, to be fair, the original series started going downhill after #2 and thanks to studio interference never stopped.)
Ugh, I could go on but I'll just stop the NERDRAGE there. TheSpoonyOne explained it well in small pieces in his overlong review of Zombie's "Halloween 2" ( http://www.spoonyexp...09-halloween-2/ )
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...Maybe that is the whole recipe of life, is to be in on the joke. Because life is a joke and if you're not in on it you're out.
But if you're in on it, you can make it." - Vincent Price
"What have you got to lose? You know you come from nothing you're going back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!"
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...Maybe that is the whole recipe of life, is to be in on the joke. Because life is a joke and if you're not in on it you're out.
But if you're in on it, you can make it." - Vincent Price
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:04 PM
Has anyone even seen the remakes of The Thing, The Fly, Dawn of the Dead, Night of the Living Dead, The Blob, The Hills Have Eyes, Last House on The Left, The Ring, King Kong 2005, Invasion of the Body Snatchers etc.? awesome remakes.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 05:43 PM
QUOTE (KorbenDallas @ Sep 26 2009, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone even seen the remakes of... The Fly... Night of the Living Dead, The Blob... The Ring... Invasion of the Body Snatchers...? awesome remakes.
Yeah, some of them were good but none of them were as good as the originals though. With the possible exception of "The Fly" but they're too totally different kinds of movies really.
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...Maybe that is the whole recipe of life, is to be in on the joke. Because life is a joke and if you're not in on it you're out.
But if you're in on it, you can make it." - Vincent Price
"What have you got to lose? You know you come from nothing you're going back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!"
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...Maybe that is the whole recipe of life, is to be in on the joke. Because life is a joke and if you're not in on it you're out.
But if you're in on it, you can make it." - Vincent Price
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 07:52 PM
QUOTE (KorbenDallas @ Sep 25 2009, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone even seen the remakes of The Thing, The Fly, Dawn of the Dead, Night of the Living Dead, The Blob, The Hills Have Eyes, Last House on The Left, The Ring, King Kong 2005, Invasion of the Body Snatchers etc.? awesome remakes.
Out of all those, I've only seen the 2005 King Kong remake.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 07:11 PM
QUOTE (KorbenDallas @ Sep 25 2009, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone even seen the remakes of The Thing, The Fly, Dawn of the Dead, Night of the Living Dead, The Blob, The Hills Have Eyes, Last House on The Left, The Ring, King Kong 2005, Invasion of the Body Snatchers etc.? awesome remakes.
The Thing is a remake in only the most technical sense. The old version was just a bad 50's era B-movie and had little to do with the story it was based on. The modern version is perhaps one of the best movies out there and my personal favorite. It also stays a lot closer to the origional story. The origional movie was bad, thus the remake was a hell of a lot better.
The problem with remaking good movies is that they're good to begin with. The phrase "don't mess with perfection" tends to apply in this situation. When you mess with success, you usually end up with failure.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 10:12 PM
I posted the link in the chat.
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Posted 29 September 2009 - 07:12 PM
He's... grey? Hahaha and CG of course. Not everybody can be Andy Serkis. And the overall effects there don't look half so good even if they were. Fail.
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...Maybe that is the whole recipe of life, is to be in on the joke. Because life is a joke and if you're not in on it you're out.
But if you're in on it, you can make it." - Vincent Price
"What have you got to lose? You know you come from nothing you're going back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!"
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...Maybe that is the whole recipe of life, is to be in on the joke. Because life is a joke and if you're not in on it you're out.
But if you're in on it, you can make it." - Vincent Price
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 09:07 AM
You should see the remakes of Dawn of the Dead and Hills Have Eyes? two excellent remakes of recent done right.
Isn't SAW already the new generation's Elm Street?
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 01:12 PM
I'm looking forward to it. Maybe they can say something new about the franchise; Haley could certainly pull off a very interesting Freddy. If they fuck it up? Well, I'll join the rest of you haters - but not until I've seen it first.
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I normally don't have a problem with breathing life into old genres like this... except this once. The reason Nightmare on Elm Street did so well was 'because' of Robert Englund. Lots of different people played Jason Voorhees and Michael Myers over the years because they weren't speaking parts. They had personality in body language, something people can duplicate... but Englund IS Kruger in every sense of the word. No amount of voice training and study of movement could come close to him. He's a comedic killer that has fun in his murderous spree, giving individual focus to his victims, preying on their weaknesses and even their strengths to show how powerless they really are, sometimes even giving them a fighting chance. He 'enjoys' the kills... not because he's made to like Jason, or wants to like Michael... he LIKES what he does.
Can Jackie Earl Haley take on that mentality? Can he learn to love being the finger-bladed dream-reaper? With his ability to play Rorschach the way he did, I'm inclined to say maybe; it looked like he enjoyed playing his role there. But people who see Freddy want to see more. Can he take up the role again if need be? That remains to be seen.
Can Jackie Earl Haley take on that mentality? Can he learn to love being the finger-bladed dream-reaper? With his ability to play Rorschach the way he did, I'm inclined to say maybe; it looked like he enjoyed playing his role there. But people who see Freddy want to see more. Can he take up the role again if need be? That remains to be seen.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 06:51 PM
I agree Xian.
Anyway I saw this on Topless Robot a day or two ago and feel strangely compelled to post it
Anyway I saw this on Topless Robot a day or two ago and feel strangely compelled to post it
"I really think of life as a great expression of joy. And if you take yourself seriously you're going to be defeated I'm afraid.
...Maybe that is the whole recipe of life, is to be in on the joke. Because life is a joke and if you're not in on it you're out.
But if you're in on it, you can make it." - Vincent Price
"What have you got to lose? You know you come from nothing you're going back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!"
- Eric Idle
...Maybe that is the whole recipe of life, is to be in on the joke. Because life is a joke and if you're not in on it you're out.
But if you're in on it, you can make it." - Vincent Price
"What have you got to lose? You know you come from nothing you're going back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!"
- Eric Idle
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