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@  furrykef : (25 July 2015 - 03:35 AM)

When was that? Depending on when it was, it might have been a DNS issue. Those should be gone now.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

on*

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

Red said he couldnt get one

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 11:25 AM)

Also I still have to figure out how to set up our e-mail accounts on the new host.

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 08:19 AM)

As soon as I figure out how to restore it. Sorry, I know I said it'd be done by now, but I didn't expect to have to put up with this DNS crap and other issues that popped up.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

So when's the black theme coming back??

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

"Should"

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 07:27 AM)

That DNS took longer to propagate properly than I thought it would. *Now* we should be back for good, though.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:48 PM)

Or it might be because Bluehost *finally* got around to that server wipe (one week after we'd asked for it) and that wiped out our DNS settings. I'm not sure which and I don't really care. In any case, we've severed our last ties with Bluehost, so this will not happen again.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:08 PM)

Looks like Bluehost yanked our DNS since our hosting account expired. That's why the site went down a while ago. But as you can see, it's fixed now.

@  Misk : (23 July 2015 - 04:55 PM)

No, they do not.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 04:27 AM)

The goggles do nothing?

@  Misk : (22 July 2015 - 05:50 PM)

My eyes.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 12:24 PM)

Looks like forum uploads might have been broken since last night. That should be fixed now too.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 01:33 AM)

Heh, whoops! Server went down for a few mins when I borked the config. Looks like it's back up now.

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 09:09 PM)

It looked like a napkin

@  ILOVEVHS : (21 July 2015 - 09:04 PM)

Fan-fuckin-tastic.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:25 PM)

As for the beaver picture while the forum was down, I think Tim drew it. On a napkin.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:24 PM)

No kiddin' about that "Finally!", Shadow. I am *so mad* at Bluehost for never responding to our support ticket. I submitted it early Friday morning and they *still* haven't answered it!

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 06:37 PM)

Maybe he did that himself


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 12:29 PM

The problem is, that can be an excellent way to get in trouble even if indeed you haven't done anything wrong. When they say "anything you say can and will be used against you" (which applies even if you haven't been read your rights), they're not kidding. Always against you, never for you. If they suspect you of a crime, they're not looking for reasons to let you go. They're looking for reasons to put you in the slammer, and they will twist the hell out of everything you say if they think it will work toward that end. You'd be amazed by the kind of crap they can pull.

What's particularly ironic is I had a dream just a couple of days ago where I made the mistake of talking to the police without a lawyer. In the dream, though, I was involved in a crime (of an entirely different nature, mind, namely theft).

 

Get this.

 

Recently where I'm from there was a strange man loping around the Elementary School playground. It was quickly dealth with, and there was even a lock down. Turns out the guy was sex-offender and a convict. Why was he there? Well, some niavie genius decided that it would be okay for Convicts to do community service in the nearby School Bus Depot, which is literally just across the fence from where all the children play... I'm proud of the kids for being cynical and staying away from the guy and the teachers for responding judiously.  Some goofball who think to high of humanity should have his wig ripped off and thrown in the slammer himself, I say. Who in their right mind allows that? A child could have been kidnapped...and worse.

 

There is a reason cops can be harsh. They see crap we don't see. It's easy for them to become skeptical of you. But still, the law system clearly says you are innocent untill proven guilty.



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Posted 29 October 2013 - 12:39 PM

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:54 PM

Recently where I'm from there was a strange man loping around the Elementary School playground. It was quickly dealth with, and there was even a lock down. Turns out the guy was sex-offender and a convict.


Now, you know more about this case than I do. But I'm a bit bothered by how you've chosen to phrase it. In some jurisdictions, "a sex offender and a convict" could describe a guy who was once arrested for public urination and who served jail time for a completely unrelated offense. It doesn't automatically make somebody a danger to children. Now, if the guy had been convicted of pedophilia specifically or something along those lines, that's a different matter, of course. I'm hoping that's the case here rather than you making snap judgments based on broad, scary labels.

 

Why was he there? Well, some niavie genius decided that it would be okay for Convicts to do community service in the nearby School Bus Depot, which is literally just across the fence from where all the children play... I'm proud of the kids for being cynical and staying away from the guy and the teachers for responding judiously.  Some goofball who think to high of humanity should have his wig ripped off and thrown in the slammer himself, I say. Who in their right mind allows that? A child could have been kidnapped...and worse.


OK, fair enough (with the caveat I've given above). I'm not stupid enough to go on school property during school hours (if only because I'm all too aware of what that looks like) and somebody who does is indeed quite suspicious. Still, I don't have all the facts here. For instance, did he give any reason for being on school property? What testimony did the kids give? Again, you know more about the case than I do, I presume, but what you've given me isn't enough for me to say more than "Yeah, that's pretty suspicious."

 

There is a reason cops can be harsh. They see crap we don't see. It's easy for them to become skeptical of you.


That does not excuse the current situation where the vast majority of the American public is not fully aware of their rights and the trouble they can get into if they don't exercise them properly. "I've seen some shit" isn't an excuse to try to send potentially innocent people to prison. Isn't there a saying, something like "I'd rather let a guilty man walk free than send an innocent man to prison"? Unfortunately, that isn't how the police system is designed.

It also doesn't excuse mass hysteria. Did you know that the vast majority of pedophiles don't prey on random kids, but rather friends and family? That's right, Uncle Bob is more likely to be a threat to your kid than some random guy on the street. And, if I recall correctly, this sort of problem has been at an all-time low in recent years, but you'd never know it from the media. I'm not saying it's wise to trust random people on the street, of course, just that people tend to get worked up over nothing.

 

But still, the law system clearly says you are innocent untill proven guilty.


What that means in a legal context and what people normally consider it to mean are, sadly, different things. If you are arrested, in the cops' eyes, you are guilty, guilty, guilty. They don't have to, and won't, treat you as innocent. If you were innocent, you would not be there. They will concede to you the rights you are guaranteed by the Constitution and no more. Sometimes they will even try to violate those if they think they can get away with it (though I would hope this is in a small minority of cases).

All "innocent until proven guilty" means is the burden of proof is on the prosecution, and that you cannot infer guilt from refusal to answer questions. In particular, it doesn't protect you from unintentionally giving said prosecution all the ammo they need to convict you, whether or not you actually committed the crime. Judges and juries also tend to be biased against defendants; unless the prosecution has a particularly weak case, they will tend to assume that, again, you must be guilty or else you wouldn't be there.

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 07:45 PM

I agree with Kef that you need to be careful and hear the full story before passing judgement.

However, most offenders are told where they can and cannot go, regardless of the crime.

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 09:37 PM

 

Recently where I'm from there was a strange man loping around the Elementary School playground. It was quickly dealth with, and there was even a lock down. Turns out the guy was sex-offender and a convict.


Now, you know more about this case than I do. But I'm a bit bothered by how you've chosen to phrase it. In some jurisdictions, "a sex offender and a convict" could describe a guy who was once arrested for public urination and who served jail time for a completely unrelated offense. It doesn't automatically make somebody a danger to children. Now, if the guy had been convicted of pedophilia specifically or something along those lines, that's a different matter, of course. I'm hoping that's the case here rather than you making snap judgments based on broad, scary labels.

 

Why was he there? Well, some niavie genius decided that it would be okay for Convicts to do community service in the nearby School Bus Depot, which is literally just across the fence from where all the children play... I'm proud of the kids for being cynical and staying away from the guy and the teachers for responding judiously.  Some goofball who think to high of humanity should have his wig ripped off and thrown in the slammer himself, I say. Who in their right mind allows that? A child could have been kidnapped...and worse.


OK, fair enough (with the caveat I've given above). I'm not stupid enough to go on school property during school hours (if only because I'm all too aware of what that looks like) and somebody who does is indeed quite suspicious. Still, I don't have all the facts here. For instance, did he give any reason for being on school property? What testimony did the kids give? Again, you know more about the case than I do, I presume, but what you've given me isn't enough for me to say more than "Yeah, that's pretty suspicious."

 

There is a reason cops can be harsh. They see crap we don't see. It's easy for them to become skeptical of you.


That does not excuse the current situation where the vast majority of the American public is not fully aware of their rights and the trouble they can get into if they don't exercise them properly. "I've seen some shit" isn't an excuse to try to send potentially innocent people to prison. Isn't there a saying, something like "I'd rather let a guilty man walk free than send an innocent man to prison"? Unfortunately, that isn't how the police system is designed.

It also doesn't excuse mass hysteria. Did you know that the vast majority of pedophiles don't prey on random kids, but rather friends and family? That's right, Uncle Bob is more likely to be a threat to your kid than some random guy on the street. And, if I recall correctly, this sort of problem has been at an all-time low in recent years, but you'd never know it from the media. I'm not saying it's wise to trust random people on the street, of course, just that people tend to get worked up over nothing.

 

But still, the law system clearly says you are innocent untill proven guilty.


What that means in a legal context and what people normally consider it to mean are, sadly, different things. If you are arrested, in the cops' eyes, you are guilty, guilty, guilty. They don't have to, and won't, treat you as innocent. If you were innocent, you would not be there. They will concede to you the rights you are guaranteed by the Constitution and no more. Sometimes they will even try to violate those if they think they can get away with it (though I would hope this is in a small minority of cases).

All "innocent until proven guilty" means is the burden of proof is on the prosecution, and that you cannot infer guilt from refusal to answer questions. In particular, it doesn't protect you from unintentionally giving said prosecution all the ammo they need to convict you, whether or not you actually committed the crime. Judges and juries also tend to be biased against defendants; unless the prosecution has a particularly weak case, they will tend to assume that, again, you must be guilty or else you wouldn't be there.

 

 

  From what I see, you are okay now. If they really were a bunch of evil ogers they would have tazed you and just made up some fanciful story . I think you were just shaken up from the whole thing. In the end there is no villan here, just a dumb misunderstanding an overreaction. They were told probably some B.S story about some creepy fellow, and were given the wrong impression from the get go. It's over now Kef. You are okay. And there's no more need to vent or villify. Unless of course you feel that you have been hurt somehow.

 

 Yeah, the guy was a creeper. It was obvious by his actions, for one thing he wasn't supposed to leave the depot and went straight for the kids, wanting them to come over and eveything. They refused to talk with the guy. No one in their right mind would allow themselves to be subject to that sort of suspicion. And I'm not sure about your statement about Pedophilia (it does happen, look at that poor girl that was a sex slave for over a decade). Yeah, getting struck by lighting is pretty rare, but that doesn't mean I don't grab my kid and make him come inside during a thunderstorm. But unlike the case you were in, this wasn't some dumb overreaction. I was under the impression this situation was rapidly worsening (I mean, I have seen what does to people first hand...).

 

 Note that I want you to see the full circle of this dillema, so you can sharpen your complaint on the wet-stone of reason and perhaps do something about it and also know why people act the way they do.

 

  I think what you are really fearing can be boiled down to egocentric thinking, people thinking and vindicating their actions on the basis of a self-centered fears, toughts , or wants instead of trying to discover objective truth of the situation (*cough* that Janitor. *cough*. I agree with you, I'd rather have justice served another day than an innocent man hurt and just breed more injustice. But in your case, I don't think that's likely. Sadly, this is a problem not exclusive to the courts and cops. It's pandemic in our consumeristic, self-obsessed, and individualistic culture. "Love thy nieghboor as thy self" has become "Love thy welfare, and in all ways love only thy self." Whether it be a power-abusing cop or a self-vindicating addict, in the end we are all going down a dark road. Kennedy would not be pleased with us, we ask a lot from others and expect a lot out of others, and we won't ever repent and realize we are all more nasty than we ought be. Only through humilty and repentence can we acknowledge fualt in ourselves and thus seek out improvement. When you point a finger, another three point back at you. It's a vicous cycle. I bet that goof is going to end being a bad-case of cry-wolf someday. In the end nobody listens to a lier or a fool (that why term limits were invented. *Pauls plays me off*).       

 

  I don't think all cops are out to get you like Boogeyman. That's a harsh generalization. That's like saying all Furries are perverts, or all Black people are lazy, or all Christians are frothing bigots. You can just condense a people whether be those in a profession or a group with an oversimplistic and biased label. There have cops that have helped me a lot in the years, though I have seen other cops abusing  people quite a bit, enfocing their own personal morals on people instead of the ethics of the land. I have seen some very kind and respectful public-speakers bashed by cops who didn't like what they were saying (usually they were irreligious). But then again the crowd got wild, and those cops got what was coming to them in a sea of videos and reports. Nowadays, if you feel that the cops are abusing their power, all you have to do is pull out a cell phone and catch them in the act. If they break it...you just got yourself some points in your favor (and there is always another camera, always). This has helped a lot of Street Preachers. There are some sad vids of some respectful people getting beat and bullied by law-enforcement just for silently handing out tracts. It's pretty pathetic, not to mention unconstitutional.  

 

I just think that cynisism and ambition can quickly cloud a person's insight, just like being hurt by any certain situation can (It could happen to you). Law Enforcement is the most powerful when keeping the law from being broken in the first place, if you are on a witchhunt you are failing your job at being an officer of the peace and have become an Officer picking up the pieces... Cops need to get psyche-checked and tuaght mediation and observatoin skills, discretion is the ultimate judge for a situation. And I have seen that. My dad was an Loss Prevention Detective for Walmart in his youth (well, younger youth, I have a pretty fit and scrappy father). He was also a Criminal Justice major. One big rule in Law Enforcement is deescalation. When people get angry and argumenative others like to go the next step and before you know it all snowballs in to chaos. Cops are trained to do the opposite and cancel that out by cooling a subject down, and if they don't have a good reason to put you in the slammer they have more important things to do. Humans err (you do to, being human) and thus Cops and all forms of professions do, but that doesn't mean there going for your throat. I think you are a bit paranoid about this, shaken up. Don't let this enbitter you beyond reason and generate an arbitrary prejudice for a person that happens to be wearing a blue-suit. You are going to be fine, stuff like this happens all the time. No reason to have a worried mind when you are innocent, right? 



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Posted 30 October 2013 - 02:22 AM

Do you ever have times at night when you just get the sudden urge to start cooking big ass meals when you never usually do in the day.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 04:04 AM

Do you ever have times at night when you just get the sudden urge to start cooking big ass meals when you never usually do in the day.

 

Yup


Some say that he knows 2 facts about ducks, and both of them are wrong. And that 61 years ago he accidentally introduced Her Majesty The Queen to a Greek racialist. All we know is, I'm going to the tower now to have my head cut off, and he is called The Stig.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 06:52 AM

From what I see, you are okay now. If they really were a bunch of evil ogers they would have tazed you and just made up some fanciful story . I think you were just shaken up from the whole thing. In the end there is no villan here, just a dumb misunderstanding an overreaction. They were told probably some B.S story about some creepy fellow, and were given the wrong impression from the get go. It's over now Kef. You are okay. And there's no more need to vent or villify. Unless of course you feel that you have been hurt somehow.


I think you misunderstand me a bit. I'm not overly concerned about what happened yesterday in particular. I'm more concerned about what would happen if I keep attracting attention, and also how I should handle the situation if I get questioned by the cops again (whether for the same reason or for something else entirely).

 

Yeah, the guy was a creeper. It was obvious by his actions, for one thing he wasn't supposed to leave the depot and went straight for the kids, wanting them to come over and eveything. They refused to talk with the guy. No one in their right mind would allow themselves to be subject to that sort of suspicion.


Sure. Obviously he indeed wasn't in his right mind. It's just that I didn't have enough to judge that from your initial description. Now we've got the matter cleared up and I think we see eye-to-eye on it.

 

And I'm not sure about your statement about Pedophilia (it does happen, look at that poor girl that was a sex slave for over a decade). Yeah, getting struck by lighting is pretty rare, but that doesn't mean I don't grab my kid and make him come inside during a thunderstorm.


Getting struck by meteors happens too, but we don't armor up every time we walk outside. I'm not saying not to take sensible precautions, just that I think people sometimes take the idea too far.

 

I don't think all cops are out to get you like Boogeyman. That's a harsh generalization.


That wasn't really what I was getting at, although I certainly understand why it came off that way. In fact, I have faith that the majority of cops are good or at least decent people. Part of the problem is that a few bad apples spoil the bunch. Unfortunately, you don't know what kind of apple you've got until you taste it.

But another part of the problem is the system is designed to treat suspects as actual criminals (as opposed to suspected criminals). It's not even the officers' fault. The cops get rewarded for putting guilty people in prison, but they don't get rewarded for letting innocent people go free. So it's not a big surprise that what happens is they design the way they work around that principle -- not any more than that it's a surprise that corporations end up doing unethical things for profit, or that politicians put the interests of their corporate sponsors ahead of those of the public. All these things happen because, the way each of these systems is designed, it's damn near impossible for it not to.

Now consider how you don't know whether or not you're a suspect when a policeman starts questioning you, and that the vast majority of the public (including me as of yesterday morning!) is unaware of the implications of such, you can see why I think there's a problem with the system. What if somebody had committed a crime at the school yesterday morning without my knowledge, or a kid went missing? (Yes, we know that didn't happen; the point is, I didn't know that yet.) I could find myself in jail and then probably on trial, with anything I said being used against me, all because I hadn't known I was a suspect yet. The cops don't have to begin their questioning with a complete or accurate description of the problem. Nothing keeps them from making you think you're not in trouble if they think it will get you to reveal something.
 

Do you ever have times at night when you just get the sudden urge to start cooking big ass meals when you never usually do in the day.


Nope. Possibly because my idea of cooking consists of tossing a frozen pizza in the oven.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 02:55 PM

Question of the day

Who would you have on your Zombie Apocalypse team? (Anyone from any show, game or movie. 1 character per franchise.)

Team Leader:
Brawler:
Weapons Expert:
Brains:
Medic:
Speed Fighter:
Mascot:
Guy Who Dies First:
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 04:09 PM

Team Leader: The Doctor
Brawler: Zangief
Weapons Expert: The Predator
Brains: Megabyte
Medic: Tsunade
Speed Fighter: The Guyver
Mascot: Dalek
Guy Who Dies First: Creeper


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 05:37 PM

Team Leader: Col. O'Neil (from Stargate)
Brawler: Worf, Son of Mogh
Weapons Expert: Calypso (From early Twisted Metal series)
Brains: Sally Acorn
Medic: Miracle Max (from The Princess Bride)
Speed Fighter: Able Nightroad (in Crusnik form)
Mascot: It the Clown
Guy Who Dies First: Fox Mulder



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Posted 30 October 2013 - 05:43 PM

Team Leader: General George S. Patton
Brawler: Mickey Ward
Weapons Expert: FPS Russia
Brains: Sally Acorn
Medic: Medic from TF2 (or Tsunade)
Speed Fighter: Naruto
Mascot: Wally the Green Monster (or Rowdy the River Hawk)
Guy Who Dies First: Creeper


Some say that he knows 2 facts about ducks, and both of them are wrong. And that 61 years ago he accidentally introduced Her Majesty The Queen to a Greek racialist. All we know is, I'm going to the tower now to have my head cut off, and he is called The Stig.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 05:48 PM

I'm gonna answer my own question too.

Team Leader: Sally Acorn
Brawler: Brock Samson
Weapons Expert: The Guard Duck from Pearls Before Swine
Brains: The Brain from Pinky and the Brain
Medic: The TF2 Medic
Speed Fighter: Jack Skellington
Mascot: Kirby
Guy Who Dies First: Dan Hibiki
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 06:23 PM

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Some say that he knows 2 facts about ducks, and both of them are wrong. And that 61 years ago he accidentally introduced Her Majesty The Queen to a Greek racialist. All we know is, I'm going to the tower now to have my head cut off, and he is called The Stig.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 06:39 PM

Question of the day
Who would you have on your Zombie Apocalypse team? (Anyone from any show, game or movie. 1 character per franchise.)
Team Leader:
Brawler:
Weapons Expert:
Brains:
Medic:
Speed Fighter:
Mascot:
Guy Who Dies First:

Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaains.......

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 07:02 PM

Do you ever have times at night when you just get the sudden urge to start cooking big ass meals when you never usually do in the day.

Nope. I only cook with the microwave.

 

 

Team Leader: Hannibal Smith (from the new A-Team)
Brawler: John McClain (Die Hard movies)
Weapons Expert: Burt Gummer (Tremors franchise)
Brains: Angus MacGyver (MacGyver)
Medic: The Tall Man. (Phantasm movies)
Speed Fighter: JJ McQuaid (Lone Wolf McQuaid)
Mascot: Ashley J. Williams (Evil Dead franchise)
Guy Who Dies First: Keff (FUS member)


Projection: If Intruder Organsim reaches civilized areas...

Entire world population infected 2,7000 hours from first contact.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 07:52 PM

How i feel right now

 


Some say that he knows 2 facts about ducks, and both of them are wrong. And that 61 years ago he accidentally introduced Her Majesty The Queen to a Greek racialist. All we know is, I'm going to the tower now to have my head cut off, and he is called The Stig.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 08:04 PM

I feel the same, but for different reasons.
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 08:12 PM

People will be celebrating all night long


Some say that he knows 2 facts about ducks, and both of them are wrong. And that 61 years ago he accidentally introduced Her Majesty The Queen to a Greek racialist. All we know is, I'm going to the tower now to have my head cut off, and he is called The Stig.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 08:17 PM

Guy Who Dies First: Fox Mulder


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