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@  furrykef : (25 July 2015 - 03:35 AM)

When was that? Depending on when it was, it might have been a DNS issue. Those should be gone now.
@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

on*
@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 10:10 PM)

Red said he couldnt get one
@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 11:25 AM)

Also I still have to figure out how to set up our e-mail accounts on the new host.
@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 08:19 AM)

As soon as I figure out how to restore it. Sorry, I know I said it'd be done by now, but I didn't expect to have to put up with this DNS crap and other issues that popped up.
@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

So when's the black theme coming back??
@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

"Should"
@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 07:27 AM)

That DNS took longer to propagate properly than I thought it would. *Now* we should be back for good, though.
@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:48 PM)

Or it might be because Bluehost *finally* got around to that server wipe (one week after we'd asked for it) and that wiped out our DNS settings. I'm not sure which and I don't really care. In any case, we've severed our last ties with Bluehost, so this will not happen again.
@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:08 PM)

Looks like Bluehost yanked our DNS since our hosting account expired. That's why the site went down a while ago. But as you can see, it's fixed now.
@  Misk : (23 July 2015 - 04:55 PM)

No, they do not.
@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 04:27 AM)

The goggles do nothing?
@  Misk : (22 July 2015 - 05:50 PM)

My eyes.
@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 12:24 PM)

Looks like forum uploads might have been broken since last night. That should be fixed now too.
@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 01:33 AM)

Heh, whoops! Server went down for a few mins when I borked the config. Looks like it's back up now.
@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 09:09 PM)

It looked like a napkin
@  ILOVEVHS : (21 July 2015 - 09:04 PM)

Fan-fuckin-tastic.
@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:25 PM)

As for the beaver picture while the forum was down, I think Tim drew it. On a napkin.
@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:24 PM)

No kiddin' about that "Finally!", Shadow. I am *so mad* at Bluehost for never responding to our support ticket. I submitted it early Friday morning and they *still* haven't answered it!
@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 06:37 PM)

Maybe he did that himself

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#27141 Alextendo

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:16 PM

Completely invalid comparison. It doesn't take weeks just to figure out how to draw something on the screen on the Sega Saturn.

The Saturn was a complete nightmare to program, MUCH more than the Atari 2600. Electronic Arts, which was one of the biggest company at that time, hate the experience to program on the Saturn SO MUCH, that EA never work with Sega ever again. So don't come to me and say how much my comparaison is wrong.

 

As I said, the difficulty of programming the Atari 2600 had a direct impact on the sorts of games that could be programmed on it. Namely, games that are, in my opinion, no fun at all to play.

Atari had manage to come out with very good game and arcade port on a system that came out in 1977 with the technology they had at the time. Beside the shitty buiness pratice responsible for the crash in 1983-1984, awesome game wasn't impossible to do on the Atari 2600. In fact, the main factor to why the Atari 2600 was plagued with crappy game was mainly due to bad marketing descision, not problem of programming. The exemple i gave earlier was game that really came out well. Even today, it's much easier to program a game for the Atari.


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#27142 Vlad Yvhv

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 06:12 PM

Alright. I have everything but my mp3 player packed for the trip tomorrow. It's charging right now.


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#27143 furrykef

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 09:02 PM


The Saturn was a complete nightmare to program, MUCH more than the Atari 2600.

*falls over laughing*

 

Electronic Arts, which was one of the biggest company at that time, hate the experience to program on the Saturn SO MUCH, that EA never work with Sega ever again. So don't come to me and say how much my comparaison is wrong.

Electronic Arts had the Playstation and N64 to work with instead. The Atari 2600 had market dominance that other consoles never had until the rise of the NES, and it got that dominance mostly by being the first console of its kind. Programmers put up with the Atari 2600 hardware because they had to. The Sega Saturn had no market dominance at all. It was out first, but Sony had stolen the Saturn's thunder before the Saturn even came out.

 

Also, the nature of game programming had changed entirely by the time of the Sega Saturn. An Atari 2600 game could be cranked out by one guy working alone in a matter of months, simply because the machine was so primitive that adding more people or time to a project wouldn't help any. Commercially viable Sega Saturn games were rather more demanding. But if you were to program a clone of an Atari 2600 game on the Sega Saturn, you could probably do it in a tiny fraction of the time it would take to do it on a real 2600.

 

Some of the difficulty was with the tools, too. For example, in the early days of the Saturn, most programmers had to program the whole game in assembly language, which is something programmers probably almost never did on the Playstation and N64. The Saturn also drew quad polygons instead of triangles, which meant that a lot of the tools programmers used didn't work well (or at all) with the Saturn. None of this has any bearing on the theoretical difficulty of programming the Saturn, because it's only a matter of creating a new set of tools for it, which in fact they eventually did.

 

Finally, most of the difficulty in programming the Saturn is in taking maximum advantage of the hardware (e.g. taking advantage of both of the Saturn's CPUs). The difficulty in programming the Atari 2600 is in doing anything at all. Even drawing a simple Mario sprite is not a trivial task on the 2600.


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#27144 Alextendo

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 09:11 PM

 


The Saturn was a complete nightmare to program, MUCH more than the Atari 2600.

*falls over laughing*

You know what? I'm fucking done with you! I just can't fucking stand your attitude anymore! You think you're that smart, yet all you do is acting like a complete douche. I'm not gonna read the rest of your post since it's just not worth it. I can't even have a decent conversation without having you act like a prick and being provokative or insulting towards me. Think what you want about the video game, but i highly doubt your video game historical knowledge.

 

Instead of having a mature and adult conversation, you NEED to be insulting at some point, just like if you HAD to do that. Yet, what you don't even know, is you talk with someone who own more than 25 games console (including some very rare one), with more than 350 games. I've made alot of research in video game history, read alot of article and documentary. So far, everything i say, you simply throw it down and telling me i'm always wrong.

 

Fuck it. The end!


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#27145 furrykef

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 09:33 PM

Look, which of the two of us has actually tried to program an Atari 2600?


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#27146 RedAuthar

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 09:35 PM

I have!


I'm totally lying I don't know how to program anything. 


#27147 ZanetheWolf

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:24 PM

So.... What's... going.. on......?


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#27148 RedAuthar

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:27 PM

Normal insanity. 


#27149 ZanetheWolf

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:36 PM

Ah. Wouldn't want it any other way.


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#27150 Shadow

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:41 PM

I discovered something great. Type in Avatar the last airbender on google. No seriously, do it.


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#27151 ZanetheWolf

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:46 PM

SHADOW WHY.


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#27152 RedAuthar

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:48 PM

WHAT THE HECK MAN!? 


#27153 Shadow

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:49 PM

I am laughing my ass off here.


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#27154 ZanetheWolf

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:51 PM

It's not all too bad.... At least in my opinion. But this is scary. Same thing with MLP for younger ones that have access to the internet. 


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#27155 Shadow

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:55 PM

Earth, fire, water, air.

Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony.
Everything changed when the futanari attacked.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:58 PM

Somebody should be monitoring this crap. Google is a terrible mentor figure. 


#27157 Alextendo

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 12:03 AM

Look, which of the two of us has actually tried to program an Atari 2600?

I don't even want to respond anymore. I can't have a decent conversation with you...so what's the point?

 

I feel down, i don't have the energy for this. I think i'm starting a depression...

 

So, if you'll excuse me...i'll tell you an another day how much i can't stand your attitude towards me because i presently feel too down for this right now.

 

I need to sleep....and recharge...i'll hate you later furrykef...i don't feel like doing anything now.

 

I really feel down....


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#27158 GamemasterAnthony

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 07:09 AM

*facepalms*  Alextendo...he wasn't being insulting, or at least he wasn't trying to be.  Granted he could have worded it better...

 

Ah, but the Atari 2600...there are some memories.  The moment I first got my grubby little 5-year old hands on one, the rest was history.  It started me on my journey.  My journey to become a great gamer.  My journey to become...the Gamemaster.

 

SONIC:  *yelling from the side*  STOP BEING OVERDRAMATIC, ANTH!

 

Yeesh...you're no fun!


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 08:29 AM

I discovered something great. Type in Avatar the last airbender on google. No seriously, do it.


I don't see anything.
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"Everyone creates the thing that they dread. Men of peace create engines of war. Invaders create Avengers. People create... smaller people...? CHILDREN! (chuckles) Lost the word there..."

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 08:51 AM

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