Has anyone seen footage for this upcoming Disney film? Let me admit, I'm somewhat skeptical, but I'll still see it. The poster is freakin beautiful though.
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The Princess and the Frog
Started by Chaosmaster8753, Jun 28 2009 02:42 PM
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Posted 28 June 2009 - 02:52 PM
I haven't even heard of it.... And poster? Anyway you could show it?
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Posted 28 June 2009 - 02:58 PM
QUOTE ("chief":16wb7tsk)
I haven't even heard of it.... And poster? Anyway you could show it?
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Posted 28 June 2009 - 03:35 PM
Oh yeah, they've been building this one up for years. It's another one of their "Princess movies" (though she's not a Princess, like Mulan or a few of the others) except OMG she's BLACK. (And in New Orleans to.... yeeep.) First a black president, then a black disney heroine, what won't they think up next?
I like how they made the lighting on the poster sort of hide the fact though, since -internationally- "Minority" films have a relatively poor record at the box office.
I know I can't wait to be unable to walk in a store without being visually assaulted by pink plastic crap with her face (along with the rest of the mostly white "rainbow of princesses") on it.
I like how they made the lighting on the poster sort of hide the fact though, since -internationally- "Minority" films have a relatively poor record at the box office.
I know I can't wait to be unable to walk in a store without being visually assaulted by pink plastic crap with her face (along with the rest of the mostly white "rainbow of princesses") on it.
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Posted 29 June 2009 - 12:55 AM
Ah yes, I've heard of this film. I think it's a great leap forward to have a - pretty - black heroine. But to be honest, when I looked at the linked poster, it didn't occur to me that her colour had been effectively 'hidden' until Ratty pointed it out. Well, if that's what's needed to make the film a success, then so be it, I suppose. I did hear somewhere though that she spends much of the film as a frog, so not actually, you know, black.
It's strange the way minority groups are portrayed in the media by the flag-bearers of traditionally-held perfection. I occasionally buy Cosmopolitan magazine, and they're pretty bad 'skinny is good' offenders. About 3 months ago they published an interview with a +-size model, complete with a few pictures. Sound good? Confidence-boosting for overweight girls? The product of a supportive feminine mindset? Not quite. The interview itself was pretty good, quite affirming for girls who aren't skinny, and we need more of that, I think. But the pictures weren't up to much at all. The model was wearing mostly black clothes and standing against a black background so you couldn't see her silouhette. It was pretty blatant that she was being hidden. In some images, she was too close to the camera for the viewer to get any meaningful context of her and the background (again, presumably to hide her size). One or two might also have been slightly blurred. I don't remember dynamic shots being particularly popular for images of their small models. There was a certain furtive quality to the pictures overall; I felt disappointed for the model.
So yes. A lot of these top-of-the-tree media companies want to be seen to include the minority groups without wanting to show anything that might be seen as imperfect, and the hypocrisy can still shine through. It's a shame. I wish Cosmo had bitten the bullet, personally. After all, with all the classic 'perfect' images in their magazine, including in the issue with the overweight model, they hardly had the same problem as Disney with their black poster-girl, did they?
It's strange the way minority groups are portrayed in the media by the flag-bearers of traditionally-held perfection. I occasionally buy Cosmopolitan magazine, and they're pretty bad 'skinny is good' offenders. About 3 months ago they published an interview with a +-size model, complete with a few pictures. Sound good? Confidence-boosting for overweight girls? The product of a supportive feminine mindset? Not quite. The interview itself was pretty good, quite affirming for girls who aren't skinny, and we need more of that, I think. But the pictures weren't up to much at all. The model was wearing mostly black clothes and standing against a black background so you couldn't see her silouhette. It was pretty blatant that she was being hidden. In some images, she was too close to the camera for the viewer to get any meaningful context of her and the background (again, presumably to hide her size). One or two might also have been slightly blurred. I don't remember dynamic shots being particularly popular for images of their small models. There was a certain furtive quality to the pictures overall; I felt disappointed for the model.
So yes. A lot of these top-of-the-tree media companies want to be seen to include the minority groups without wanting to show anything that might be seen as imperfect, and the hypocrisy can still shine through. It's a shame. I wish Cosmo had bitten the bullet, personally. After all, with all the classic 'perfect' images in their magazine, including in the issue with the overweight model, they hardly had the same problem as Disney with their black poster-girl, did they?
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Posted 29 June 2009 - 01:47 AM
Woah, Disney still makes animated movies?
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 11:19 AM
I'm mostly interested to see how Disney approaches this newest 2d feature. I felt with the last handful of traditonally animated movies, from Pocahontas on, that the visual style was becoming more simplified and stylized, and I wasn't too keen on them.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 05:45 AM
They've had this in the works for a while. But I believe they shelved it in favor of their 3-D crap like Chicken Little and My Hero. (At least I think it's called My Hero. Google seems to want nothing to do with it. )
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 05:52 PM
One thing I have to say is that this is more like a return to the form of movies Disney is famous for. Hand drawn films have still been made, but not alot. Some examples include the SpongeBob Squarepants movie, the Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie, and the Simpsons movie.
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 06:35 PM
People still watch Disney movies?
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 06:41 PM
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One thing I have to say is that this is more like a return to the form of movies Disney is famous for. Hand drawn films have still been made, but not alot. Some examples include the SpongeBob Squarepants movie, the Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie, and the Simpsons movie.
None of those were actually hand-drawn in the literal sense (i.e., pencils and paper and cels). Dunno about SpongeBob, but definitely not ATHF or The Simpsons Movie (in fact, The Simpsons Movie doesn't even look at all like the show if you know what to look for; it's much fancier animation). Probably a better term to use would be "2D animation".
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 08:30 PM
ATHF looked alot like the show.
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 11:56 PM
Yeah, and what does the show look like? A lot of copy 'n' paste. Definitely not traditional animation.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 11:24 PM
Kaptain H you love the renissance or what? it's not true what you said, i mean "Mulan" and "Emperor's New Groove" are prime examples of excellent post-Pocahontas animated movies. I mean 2D animation is something we all miss and we don't want disney replaced by Pixar.
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