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@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 11:25 AM)

Also I still have to figure out how to set up our e-mail accounts on the new host.

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 08:19 AM)

As soon as I figure out how to restore it. Sorry, I know I said it'd be done by now, but I didn't expect to have to put up with this DNS crap and other issues that popped up.

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

So when's the black theme coming back??

@  Uncle Ben : (24 July 2015 - 07:56 AM)

"Should"

@  furrykef : (24 July 2015 - 07:27 AM)

That DNS took longer to propagate properly than I thought it would. *Now* we should be back for good, though.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:48 PM)

Or it might be because Bluehost *finally* got around to that server wipe (one week after we'd asked for it) and that wiped out our DNS settings. I'm not sure which and I don't really care. In any case, we've severed our last ties with Bluehost, so this will not happen again.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 08:08 PM)

Looks like Bluehost yanked our DNS since our hosting account expired. That's why the site went down a while ago. But as you can see, it's fixed now.

@  Misk : (23 July 2015 - 04:55 PM)

No, they do not.

@  furrykef : (23 July 2015 - 04:27 AM)

The goggles do nothing?

@  Misk : (22 July 2015 - 05:50 PM)

My eyes.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 12:24 PM)

Looks like forum uploads might have been broken since last night. That should be fixed now too.

@  furrykef : (22 July 2015 - 01:33 AM)

Heh, whoops! Server went down for a few mins when I borked the config. Looks like it's back up now.

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 09:09 PM)

It looked like a napkin

@  ILOVEVHS : (21 July 2015 - 09:04 PM)

Fan-fuckin-tastic.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:25 PM)

As for the beaver picture while the forum was down, I think Tim drew it. On a napkin.

@  furrykef : (21 July 2015 - 08:24 PM)

No kiddin' about that "Finally!", Shadow. I am *so mad* at Bluehost for never responding to our support ticket. I submitted it early Friday morning and they *still* haven't answered it!

@  Uncle Ben : (21 July 2015 - 06:37 PM)

Maybe he did that himself

@  Shadow : (21 July 2015 - 05:25 PM)

Say, who made the cute picture of Beaver Chief?

@  Shadow : (21 July 2015 - 05:24 PM)

Finally!

@  RedMenace : (21 July 2015 - 05:02 PM)

Woooo! The site's back up! Three cheers for Kef!


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#41 Guest_Miko_*

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:20 AM

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Oh shut the fuck up Adamis. You know damn well that the flame war was started by Winking Samurai, not us. We were simply defending our opinion. Winking Samurai could've avoided the whole flame war by letting us speak our mind about our opinion and shutting the fuck up. Not even he denied the fact he started it after his ass was put up against the wall.


"Shut the fuck up"? You seem really angry for someone who is "innocent".


Or maybe she's angry because she is. You didn't come here all sunshine and leprechauns yourself.

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When there is a flame war, there are two guilties. You also had the possibility to end that but no, you continued it. You are as guilty as him. Defending your opinions is fine, continuing a flamewar is another thing.


I'm not sure I'd call it a flame war. Wanking took our opinions about friggin ECHIDNAS, brought up Julian in relation to that opinion and in order to support our opinions, yes we had to address the differences in what we advocated. Wanking and the others took this as an opportunity to whine about how WE yes we derailed the topic into a Julian topic when we were merely defending our veiw. If we hadn't we'd have been dismissed as hypocrites. It was a lose lose situation and the mods used this trap of a situation to ONLY ban US.


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You do realize I said that though because saying I need to learn how to write for comics didn't actually tell me exactly what you were trying to communicate. Instead of clarifying what you were saying you just made and insult. It didn't really have any substance beyond a flame so I guess that makes you simply adorable too. Or did you think liking Ians work made you exempt from that. A lot of his forumers seem to think they're special.


Once again, you're wrong. How is "learn how to write comic books" hard to understand?


It doesn't explain in detail what you meant in your original post I'd asked you to clarify. It was just a flame when asked to explain yourself. You seem to have a phobia of supporting yourself. Saying I'm wrong doesn't prove it is.



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And where did I insult you? With "cute"?


No with "learn how to write comic books" with nothing to really back it up that you've willing to explain when asked.


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Don't be such a blowhard. Actually explain your point of veiw.


I'm not a "blowhard", I'm just stating some things I've studied, so I can judge a story with some notions you don't have if you hadn't studied them.


Come with em then, hardcore.


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Not adorable. True. That's why your ass went and got me that half-assed link <3

No, no ^^ Adorable. This is he case I spoke of earlier: when you are in front of the proofs, you deny them.


You didn't provide any proof though, dear. That's why you had to go get the link.





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Remember I don't owe you shit Adamis. Go find where I was called a liar and explain why ^^


I don't owe you anything either, cute Miko. I don't need to prove here where you've been called dishonest/hypocritical (Hey, I told you that on Sonic Stadium ! xD)


People can say the Earth is flat. It doesn't mean it is. People's deluded perceptions of the world don't necessarily have to be fact. Y'know now I can kinda see why you guys beleive Julian MUST be dead! It makes perfect sense. See, just because someone might say I'm dishonest, doesn't mean I am. I can call you dishonest right now. BY GOD you must be dishonest, and therefore you're being dishonest about me being dishonest.

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She and her friends/sisters/whatever keep coming back because they can keep going on and on about it and get into their little debates here. If you actually want it to STOP, just stop interacting with it. If the only people they have to fight with on these issues are themselves, they don't WIN, they just don't have anyone else to argue WITH.

We can see how they're wrong, but they obviously aren't going to give, so really it's a two part flood. We're talking three posters, tops, against the rest of the board, and frankly if the rest of the board just nodded and said "yep, there's Miko/Viuley/Shorty for you" and moved on, these floods would be over before they started. There's no argument, there's no reason to debate them, because we know how the arguments are going to go, and we know they're going to keep coming back and doing it AGAIN.

They keep saying they're testing the strength of their arguments, but they can only do that if there's someone to argue WITH. If everyone just went "uh huh" and moved on, completely ignoring them, they'd be done. Yeah, they might keep TALKING, but without anyone interacting with them it'd just be a lump of text you can scroll past, as opposed to something you get involved in.

Let's put it this way: Someone's going to pick this post apart, line by line, and try to point every way they consider me wrong, so they can think they've won. I'm going to scroll right over that reply and ignore it, since I see no reason to care about it.

They can keep going all they want, but without an actual audience, there won't be anyone else to flood.


I can't agree more than that. I will follow these advices. I will leave you and your friends/sisters/whatever in your stupidity.


Translation: BAAAAAAAW !

....seriously where did it say I "lied" though? And even if they did, step 2 in proving your point would be you needing to show proof of me lying. Y'know kinda like how we did with Dub and those sales figures months ago?

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Yeah and I'm a liar!

#42 MaRaMa-TSG

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:24 AM

Wow, from comic book angst to bashing each other on personal levels and thus the drama llama strikes again. I love you FUS.

I'd like to note that earning a degree in whatever doesn't make you an expert and that as far as I know, constantly being out of continuity and ignoring/retconing older stuff is part of the comic world but it doesn't mean it's good for it. It only means it's the only excuse writers have when they mess up. And if other horrible writers and even artist could still be hired and paid a lot of money and have a crappy comic still going thanks to the bind fandom or fad of the moment could do it, then this can too.

Here's the reason it's so popular with kids:

"It has Sonic on it! you know, the blue dude from aaaall those games all over the place who also got a crossover with Mario and got himself in Brawl because he MUST be awesome (and not because SEGA sold it's soul to Nintendo) so anything with Sonic's face in it must be awesome too! Even if I have no idea what's going on in it. Even if I have no idea who those bunch of extra characters are but they're in a Sonic comic so they must be awesome too and so everything that happens is awesome too! OMG! Eggman went mad! This comic goes beyond the games and it's so realistic, that is SO cool! I love this comic and will buy it forever and ever!"

That's what your average kid, the ones the comic is aimed at, will have crossing it's mind. Just read the Sonic grams. "Who is this char and why are they there? Will Shadow be back?! And when will Creme, Cheese, Vanilla, Chocolate chip, pistachio be in the comic too!"

If all they need are those read it then go right ahead and keep the crap up. You're doing great!

I was part of that crowd when everything Sonic was awesome, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't want the thing to still be good for everyone else too. It's not that hard! They can try being original and not try to shove every single continuity in one place to please every single fan ever.
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:32 AM

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Wow, from comic book angst to bashing each other on personal levels and thus the drama llama strikes again. I love you FUS.


FUS loves you too, Marma! =DDD

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I'd like to note that earning a degree in whatever doesn't make you an expert


Having a degree also doesn't mean you automatically have talent. Also, Adamis may say he has a degree, but this is the internet. Someone can say that they're God or Raptor Jesus here.


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Here's the reason it's so popular with kids:

"It has Sonic on it! you know, the blue dude from aaaall those games all over the place who also got a crossover with Mario and got himself in Brawl because he MUST be awesome (and not because SEGA sold it's soul to Nintendo) so anything with Sonic's face in it must be awesome too! Even if I have no idea what's going on in it. Even if I have no idea who those bunch of extra characters are but they're in a Sonic comic so they must be awesome too and so everything that happens is awesome too! OMG! Eggman went mad! This comic goes beyond the games and it's so realistic, that is SO cool! I love this comic and will buy it forever and ever!"


However, with Sonic's poor sales in games, he's obviously not popular enough to weather all of the backstory in the comic anymore. The recession doesn't really help matters, either. *shrugs*

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:48 AM

Sigh, another issue, another Bumblefaggot white knight comes to shit things up because God forbid we do not rain glowing praise on Ian's piece of shit writing that makes Sonmanic's script look good. The same Ian who wrote Teletubbies/Sonic fanfiction, and the same Ian who stooped low enough to plagiarize Drazen's work.

Don't think for one second that we do not know what is going on behind the scenes. As for you Adamis, va te faire foutre avec le microbitte d'Ian, tête de noeud.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:48 AM

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Wow, from comic book angst to bashing each other on personal levels and thus the drama llama strikes again. I love you FUS.


Lol Girls Gone Wild as you can only see on FUS.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:02 AM

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"Shut the fuck up"? You seem really angry for someone who is "innocent".
When there is a flame war, there are two guilties. You also had the possibility to end that but no, you continued it. You are as guilty as him. Defending your opinions is fine, continuing a flamewar is another thing.


Innocent people can get pissed off from getting fucked around with. I'm particularly pretty fucking sick of Dub's bullshit.



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When there is a flame war, there are two guilties. You also had the possibility to end that but no, you continued it. You are as guilty as him. Defending your opinions is fine, continuing a flamewar is another thing.


What's that? Nothing to say to Shorty's post? This is proof that the topic was just a bullshit ploy to ban us while keeping Ian's supporters untouched. Dub is famous for pulling this bullshit because he's a coward.

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Salut, bande de nuls.


You're just leaving because you don't really know what else to say. And I find myself validated by saying this after you were being a pompus asshole prancing in "mature" panties with no proof that we're liars and calling us a group of idiots in french because you're too much of a bitch to say it in English.

Au Benoit. Reviens à lecher le vagin d'Ian comme le bon mouton.

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The same Ian who wrote Teletubbies/Sonic fanfiction, and the same Ian who stooped low enough to plagiarize Drazen's work.


OMFG Tellutubbies JOAN?! Show us MOAR!

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:07 AM

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Salut, bande de nuls.


Reviens au pâturage d'Ian, mouton débile!

SEE I CAN SAY FRENCH WORDS TOO!


P.S: SHOW US JOAN.

I WANT TO SEE THE MISTAKE OF RAPTOR JESUS!

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:09 AM

In case anyone missed Shorty's post. I'm reposting it for emphasis:

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Oh heeeell no. First of all, its debatable to even call that topic a flame war. Second of all I DID back out, after one post and yet despite the fact I left, the fact that Toby, a MODERATOR contributed after my leave, and the fact other people were also partaking in it alot more than I ever did, my sisters and I get banned yet none of THEM get punished?! Not even WinkingSamurai, the guy who started it? Please. What a load of crap.


Testimony of Dub being a retard (again).

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:15 AM

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The same Ian who wrote Teletubbies/Sonic fanfiction, and the same Ian who stooped low enough to plagiarize Drazen's work.


OMFG Tellutubbies JOAN?! Show us MOAR!


Have fun : http://www.andrews.e...en/overhill.txt

I laughed pretty hard. This is up there with Sonmanic's OMG BULLET RAT script.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:17 AM

Holy crap...

This deserves its own topic.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 12:21 PM

My my, this has gotten quite out of hand. I can't say I disagree with Miko and her supporters. Adamis, you were the one who initiated the flame war. The blame falls on you. Yes, the girls took the flame bait, but they were merely defending their right to express themselves.

Oh right, you're leaving forever and ever. Oh well, tootles.

Because I am a benevolent admin, I will allow this thread to continue. I don't anticipate any further problems from Adamis.


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Posted 27 May 2009 - 04:06 AM

Yes, I know Miko and her gang have a way of getting on peoples' nerves. It can be difficult not to react to them. I got more angry about the ending of #200, and Sonic and the Freedom Fighters not arresting Eggman, because of what Miko and her group said; Archie unintentially(I think) giving them reason to flame Sally(a character I like). They are aganist some things that I want to see in the comics, like Sonic and Sally(a pairing I hold very dear) ending up together, I can't help but be defensive sometimes because I don't want them to win in what happens in the comic. It's not that they don't have a right to express themselves, I just don't want Sega or Archie to think Miko's fan group has much power, so that they do what they want(I know this maybe irrational). Just explaining why I struggle when it comes to them. Ian may not be a perfect writer, but I think he is better than what we had with Karl and Ken.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 05:46 AM

Uhh Wow this kind of got out of hand. I don't visit for two days and you guys tear each other apart, thats not very nice. I don't think anything in this was worth bringing to a personal level, but hey who am I to judge. Anyway, DCC I at least agree with you about Sonic and Sally pairing. I also think her character should play a bigger role, but I don't want to start a new topic/rant so just pretend I didn't say that.
Perhaps everyone should reserves some judgement for the next issue, they did leave some loose ends? It's not 100% clear where they are going yet.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 09:30 AM

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Archie unintentially(I think) giving them reason to flame Sally(a character I like).


Flame? A flame would essentially be saying simply that
"she sucks" without backing up the statement. We might criticize Sally, but not at the very least without supporting our reasoning. I don't know what you got out of what we said about her this issue, but I will speak for myself in how I think she was potrayed: OOC, something Ian's becoming more and more notorious of.

The Freedom Fighters go to raid Robotnik for what? The sake of raiding? Egging, and throwing toilet paper at his fortress? I could see Sonic a little shaken up, but Sally? No. Past continuity's proven that time and time again she can judge and uphold the law despite how bad she's feeling about doing it (ex: Mecha Madness). Eggman and Snively have committed various crimes against the kingdom, so why didn't she make the order to arrest them? And even if she theoretically DID want what was best for Eggman at that point, leaving him to SNIVELY all people, the same guy who became a Freedom Fighter and betrayed them, and the person who was to their knowledge, responsible for Robotnik Prime's death? Probably should have told her that wasn't a good idea. Not to mention that even with Robotnik out the way, Snively's always managed to somehow become a threat when left alone too long.

Its as I was saying ages ago. Ian just warps Sally to fit where he wants her to go. Where she is now, and a lot of things she's done as of late have nothing to do with what's really in her character.

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They are aganist some things that I want to see in the comics, like Sonic and Sally(a pairing I hold very dear) ending up together


Technically, we're against Sonic "officially" being with anyone within the present continuity of the comics, (but me personally, I've no problem with him at least having his moments between them). This, we beleive it'd be for everyone's best interest. Like Sonic/Sally? She can always be a potential love interest. Like SonAmy or SonMina? Why shouldn't that be open for fans as well? You have to admit, Sally alone isn't a franchise-reknown love interest like Lois Lane, and compared to Amy she isn't all that popular. The fanbase is too diverse, not to mention a few other reasons I won't get into here.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:15 AM

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They are aganist some things that I want to see in the comics, like Sonic and Sally(a pairing I hold very dear) ending up together, I can't help but be defensive sometimes because I don't want them to win in what happens in the comic.


...but would it have been for the good of the comic's narrative at all? I mean, to want them to be together just so you can "win" at what happens in the comic is not just shallow, but small-minded.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 05:19 PM

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They are aganist some things that I want to see in the comics, like Sonic and Sally(a pairing I hold very dear) ending up together,


And when they get together then what? What's going to keep the relationship fresh and full of conflict to keep people hooked? In the end Archie's just going to pop out more drama like Sally's royal woes to keep them apart and more love interests anyway like they did with Fiona, Geoff, and Mina. So if none of the girls officially end up with Sonic then at least they can play off each other so that we don't have to make so many more love interests in the future. Besides, I don't think that it's entirely fair that the minority fanbase gets to have what they want when so many people hate Sally. Its Another reason why if there's no official pairing shoved down our throats, everyone can imagine what they want with Sonic for the future no matter how popular or unpopular their favorite love interest is. It also prevents the writers from being caught in the backlash of previously popular girl characterization trends that have gone out of style without the fans being totally left in the dust(like Sally's "grrrrl power" motif). But noooooooo it just HAS to be one way and one love interest.

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 03:11 AM

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They are aganist some things that I want to see in the comics, like Sonic and Sally(a pairing I hold very dear) ending up together, I can't help but be defensive sometimes because I don't want them to win in what happens in the comic.


...but would it have been for the good of the comic's narrative at all? I mean, to want them to be together just so you can "win" at what happens in the comic is not just shallow, but small-minded.


True, Valerie Valens, there is much more to my reasons for wanting Sonic and Sally together though, which I have stated plenty of times here. I don't really want to turn this into a Sonic and Sally debate thread.

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 04:29 AM

But what is it about their relationship that would change after they're a couple that'd in turn change the narrative for the better? Oh I'm sure they'd kiss and hold hands but is that really a big change? Does it really affect the story so much that they can't just be single?

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 10:53 AM

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True, Valerie Valens, there is much more to my reasons for wanting Sonic and Sally together though, which I have stated plenty of times here. I don't really want to turn this into a Sonic and Sally debate thread.


I want to see those reasons.

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 01:52 PM

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Because I am a benevolent admin, I will allow this thread to continue. I don't anticipate any further problems from Adamis.


I did get a little carried away though as you said. I'm not even all that used to using swear words. I don't really like Ian's direction with the book but I guess saying "shit" would be a bit well yeah. I'm currently kinda laughing at the parts where I said ass too much. TBH though it was more about getting him to understand how I felt when he flamed me. I don't like people for example calling me a liar and thinking that just saying I am is good enough to weasel out of everything I say to them. But my execution was more then lacking I guess.

Oh well. At least I can reflect and admit my mistakes. ^.^




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