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[acstrife]

Anyway, I don't want this board to suddenly become too obsessed with how people view us just because we're trying to entice traffic.

Honestly, who cares what other people think of FUS? Let them go thier way, and we'll go ours. Simple yeah?

I don't want places like MoFo and Bumbleking to start gaining indirect control here because we'd be trying too hard to make people like us. I don't like a board that places this fake image of peace to please others.

Well I think this is a case of forum being jealous of other forum. I would not put too much worry to it. Besides people who like the our forum will come, and we do have to give FUS site changes a sporting chance to see if it worked. Time will only tell the outcome.

[MistressAli]

It's been like 6 fucking years since the guy's been on the board; maybe the guy has changed. How can you say he might not be behaving in a better manner off the board? Wow, let's just insult people because they like someone you don't! That's not childish or anything!

Just thought I'd quote something straight from the horse's mouth:

And I'm one of the biggest assholes in Sonic fandom.

The way he talks about himself on Chad's thing would suggest otherwise. It doesn't sound like he cares either. Not really my problem though. All I can say is I respect the decisions FUS made with those that were banned. I can't help but feel like people are just commenting out of butthurt.

Yeah, but at least he doesn't deny it unlike Sonmanic who acts like a total innocent
Also, I've been around DA, he doesn't act so bad on there as he did on here sometimes. (And like I said, I personally think there's other people on FUS who acted just as bad. There was a certain mod who I remember regularly cursed out people, called people retards and all sorts of things. I never knew -why- they were a mod, other than that they were pals with Sonique. I can see why people, if they came in during this mod's reign, would be turned off by FUS.)
I think my biggest beef with teh FUS VS Nightweaver/Sonmanic/whoever thing is FUS as a whole acts like everyone should hate them, and if you don't, then you're an 'enemy' of FUS. Kind of like those redneck American people who think just because you don't support a war, that means you're agaisnt the USA or hate the soliders. I personally don't hate Nightweaver/etc, but I see that some people's personal greivances with him have become almost a FUS rule, like we all should have greviances with him.

[fishtheimpaler]

Look, go over and talk if you want to. There's more to it than looking good.

Still, though. "Does this script make me look fat?"

[Valerie Valens]

How laughable. There's been people on this board who act just as bad, or as rude as Nightweaver ever did. Hell, some of those assholes used to be -mods-, for cripe's sakes. And when we even have the former owner of these site trying to hack it, how can we judge other people if they think 'Nightweaver isn't that bad.' It's been like 6 fucking years since the guy's been on the board; maybe the guy has changed. How can you say he might not be behaving in a better manner off the board? Wow, let's just insult people because they like someone you don't! That's not childish or anything!

I'm just saying maybe we have too many occurrences of posts of this nature where someone who seems opposed to FUS or gets on the wrong side of the board gets publicly bashed or criticised.

I agree, it makes this place seems so elitist. For members who 'hurt' the board and have now been gone for years and years, why not just get the hell over it?

Wow, it makes me sad that so many people I like or respect, some who have visited FUS for years, have been driven away by this very attitude.

I guess you were gleefully oblivious to the fact that Daniel "Nightweaver" Harris tried to forcefully solicit cyber sex from Morgan, who was a minor at the time. I don't think a mere 6 years is enough to make us forget this kind of shit. It could also be argued that he did more damage to the image of FUS than anyone else, especially with that PoE incident where he fantasized that sticking it in a ferret's pooper is an experience better than nirvana.

If he was just a garden variety douchebag, then I might agree with your position, but I know better.

Also, the reasons those regulars have left have nothing to do with what you mentioned, the reasons are multi-faceted. So let's not go down that strawman line of reasoning, okay?

PS : Sonicus Prime is one of the best Mods/Admins FUS has ever had. Don't knock him just because he doesn't carry a facade of niceness and cannot tolerate bullshit.

[MistressAli]

Oh no, cybersex? How horrible!
If it was real sex, I might care. As it is, I guess I could get arrested for making dirty jokes online if a minor was present.

Besides, I'm more irked at the fact that FUS as a whole will shun people just because they might be friends or even mere aquaintances with 'enemies of the FUS'. I'm not saying to let the 'enemies' back in, but what's the point of keeping this blacklist and making FUS look hostile? What's the point when those people aren't on FUS anymore?

It could also be argued that he did more damage to the image of FUS than anyone else, especially with that PoE incident.

Most people complaining seemed to have an issue with mods being mean to newbies, or the atmosphere seeming too elitist... and I noticed a bunch of them are affiliating FUS with writing ED articles. Hmmm?

PS : Sonicus Prime is one of the best Mods/Admins FUS has ever had. Don't knock him just because he doesn't carry a facade of niceness and cannot tolerate bullshit.

Wow, I don't remember mentioning names, Val.

[chief]

Ughhhh! Ok last thing we need is some stupid internal war on us being elistist or whatever..,


Ok I know I made this thing go off topic cause I hate how FUS got summed into a single group but honestly everyone... If FUS is going to start getting rid of its bad rep with some people (besides idiots who deserve to be banned) We can't be fighting with each other on who or how or who did what blahhh...


So yes... Put this thing back on topic or I'm locking it... We don't need some internal war here.

[Anaesthesia]

I have nothing to contribute to the main topic, but I do want to say one thing:

Oh no, cybersex? How horrible!
If it was real sex, I might care. As it is, I guess I could get arrested for making dirty jokes online if a minor was present.

Cracking a dirty joke isn't the same as making an actual advance. If the jerk was trying to cyber with someone who wasn't interested, especially someone who was clearly a minor, it was still an unwanted advance. Online or IRL, sexual harassment is sexual harassment.

[Ratty Randnums]

There was a certain mod who I remember regularly cursed out people, called people retards and all sorts of things.

PS : Sonicus Prime is one of the best Mods/Admins FUS has ever had. Don't knock him just because he doesn't carry a facade of niceness and cannot tolerate bullshit.

Wow, I don't remember mentioning names, Val.

Yes, you come off, oh, very much as if you don't have the nerve to say things like they are.

I have nothing to contribute to the main topic, but I do want to say one thing:

Oh no, cybersex? How horrible!
If it was real sex, I might care. As it is, I guess I could get arrested for making dirty jokes online if a minor was present.

Cracking a dirty joke isn't the same as making an actual advance. If the jerk was trying to cyber with someone who wasn't interested, especially someone who was clearly a minor, it was still an unwanted advance. Online or IRL, sexual harassment is sexual harassment.

Yes, he threatend to ban Morgan when she started to refuse, so Morgan then showed the logs to Alison (who was living with/dating him at the time) and they broke up, shortly after triggering Nightweavers hack attack in which he deleted FUS because Alison had given him all her passwords and not changed them.



PS- I agree Prime was an awesome mod/admin, he turned not sugar coating things into an art form. But I never saw him be more harsh than the person he was talking to deserved.

[Valerie Valens]

Ok I know I made this thing go off topic cause I hate how FUS got summed into a single group but honestly everyone... If FUS is going to start getting rid of its bad rep with some people (besides idiots who deserve to be banned) We can't be fighting with each other on who or how or who did what blahhh...

To add to this, I would also like to mention that unfounded accusations like this :

Besides, I'm more irked at the fact that FUS as a whole will shun people just because they might be friends or even mere aquaintances with 'enemies of the FUS'. I'm not saying to let the 'enemies' back in, but what's the point of keeping this blacklist and making FUS look hostile? What's the point when those people aren't on FUS anymore?

Is also not needed.

[MistressAli]

Yes, you come off, oh, very much as if you don't have the nerve to say things like they are.

Oh please, I have the nerve, I just don't like to drag names into things. I figure if people know who I'm talking about, then fine.

Yes, he threatend to ban Morgan when she started to refuse, so Morgan then showed the logs to Alison (who was living with/dating him at the time) and they broke up, shortly after triggering Nightweavers hack attack in which he deleted FUS because Alison had given him all her passwords and not changed them

Thanks for shedding more light on this, I will take back what I said about the cybersex. (I never thought it was right, btw, but I didn't think it was that big a deal.)

To add to this, I would also like to mention that unfounded accusations like this :Is also not needed.

The whole reason I even jumped into this discussion was because Viuely made a post naming names of people who were supposedly 'not wanted' at FUS because of this or that, one reason being that they thought Nightweaver 'wasn't that bad'. (whatever their reasons for thinking so...) So really, how is this unfounded when it happened right in this topic?

[MistressAli]

Alright, I get that now. (I still don't think it's right to name names.)
But someone proclaiming to be an asshole is one thing, and acting like one is another, and I've seen Night around DA and he dosen't really act like a jerk (from what I've seen.). So none of the people mentioned by Viuely KNOW what Night did here, they only know what they see around DA, which is probably some nice comments on somebody's art, or whatever. I mean, does anyone get what I'm saying here? So, these people come to FUS and see people still harping on what they consider to be 'some mistake in the past' and they think this place is hostile and holding grudges.
OR they otherwise encountered some sort of unwelcoming atmosphere here which made them turn around and leave. No, it's not right for them to judge everyone here by some people's behavior. I guess it's all about first impressions.
Anyway, I HOPE this clarifies what I originally meant to say, because obviously I get misread so friggin' often on this board. *rolls eyes*