NOTE: Some of you may think this is a rant and therefore belongs in "Robotropolis Vents" as you read it, but I'm not really mad, I'm just recalling what happened.
After watching the Angry Video Game Nerd attack the Virtual Boy game for the movie, I rented it a few hours ago just to see how bad it really is. I just finished watching and it sucked, but I'm not really complaining because I wasn't expecting this to be good to begin with. While it's not a flat out abomination, it was bad and I'd be happy to never see it again. If you think about it, Waterworld is really nothing more than an aquatic version of the Road Warrior, except the Road Warrior is actually worth viewing. The story and sequences thoughout are almost exactly the same except the environments are different.
Some of the action scenes were entertaining and it was kinda funny to see the Mariner trap Helen in the sailing mast and whack her with an ore, but that's basically all of the good aspects of the movie. All of the other aspects of Waterworld range from mediocre to bad. For one, the title sounds more fitting for a ride at Disneyland than a post-apocalyptic action epic. The concept is ridiculous as well, if the polar ice caps completely melted, it wouldn't be enough to flood the entire world, not even Al Gore believes this. I found myself not giving a fuck about the characters because they weren't interesting one bit. It's also too long, it runs at a little over two hours but could have made this in an 80-90 minute time frame. The cherry on the shit sundae has to be Dennis Hopper as the Deacon, he's the villan but he's one of the lamest villans I've ever seen, he was more like a clown than a bad guy. I could keep going but you all get the picture.
I wouldn't recommend this to anyone unless if you want to see a bad movie, just don't expect it to be good.
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Waterworld (1995)
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Posted 05 December 2008 - 07:53 PM
Yeah. This's one of those modern B movies. It'll do to pass the time, if yer waitin' on something else to come on, but it just isn't the kind of movie you'd wanna go rent (unless you're planning to MST it with some friends).
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 12:27 AM
QUOTE ("VladYvhv":7gmyh8jy)
Yeah. This's one of those modern B movies
Yeah, except B movies were ussually made on the cheap, and wasn't this billed as like the most expensive movie ever made up until that time as if that would automatically make it good?
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It'll do to pass the time, if yer waitin' on something else to come on, but it just isn't the kind of movie you'd wanna go rent (unless you're planning to MST it with some friends).
Indeed, I wonder if a RiffTraxx has been made for it yet.
Been a few years but from what I recall I'd have to agree that it's a crappy Mad Max/Road Warrior ripoff, imaginative for a ripoff, but often (too often I should say) poorly executed to come out. Skip it's my advice.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 02:36 PM
Zoidberg says: "THE MOVIE IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!"
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 03:39 PM
I remember wanting to see it when it first came out, but ended up waiting until we could rent it on vhs. We got about 10 seconds in and collectively shrieked at Kevin Costner peeing in a bottle before we shut it off. I never did end up watching the whole thing.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 06:22 PM
I haven't seen the whole thing, though I've seen the majority of it, and I really don't think the movie was that bad. It certainly wasn't that good, but I wouldn't rate it worse than "about as mediocre as it gets". With a little tweaking, it probably could have been a pretty good movie. There's some good ideas in there, and the world they were in was pretty intriguing... they just didn't pull it off as they should have.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 08:20 PM
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QUOTE ("VladYvhv":10s1x7c9)
Yeah. This's one of those modern B movies
Yeah, except B movies were ussually made on the cheap, and wasn't this billed as like the most expensive movie ever made up until that time as if that would automatically make it good?
Thus the difference between conventional B movies and "modern B movies". The term has evolved and tends to be used on bad movies reguardless of production values and stars and whatnot.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 09:29 PM
I think "B movie" is more of a genre (or really a meta-genre or something, since B movies can be in any genre). I dunno if Waterworld really fits it, though... Waterworld isn't cheesy, it's just not well-executed.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 09:59 PM
It's hilarious that so much money was wasted on this movie that it had to make as much money as Jurassic Park just to break even. Though it did eventually break even when it was released overseas, whatever profit it did make was a joke. When not looking at the controversy concerning the overspending, there's nothing worthwhile in this movie that you can't find in The Road Warrior, so it's worthless.
Waterworld sucks, but I'd take it anyday over Battlefield Earth.
Waterworld sucks, but I'd take it anyday over Battlefield Earth.
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 08:46 PM
QUOTE ("Ratty":3k3ohldz)
VladYvhv wrote:
Yeah. This's one of those modern B movies
Yeah, except B movies were ussually made on the cheap, and wasn't this billed as like the most expensive movie ever made up until that time as if that would automatically make it good?
Yeah. This's one of those modern B movies
Yeah, except B movies were ussually made on the cheap, and wasn't this billed as like the most expensive movie ever made up until that time as if that would automatically make it good?
I think the fact that every scene took place in either a wet-set or in an ocean somewhere bumped the price of the movie some.
But, yeah. Not worth it. I sat through half of it and had to shut it off to do something else, promising I'd come back to it later. I never did. I returned it top the video store before I cared to finish.
After finding you don't care about the characters, you start nit-picking other things. Like, where did all of that gasoline come from to run the vehicles? Maybe it was explained, but like I said, I never finished the movie. The environments were REALLY drab looking. I know there's only so much you can do with a gray sky reflecting off of the water, but there are a lot of pirate movies that had visually interesting environments, even when they were out at sea.
I think the fact that it was a rip-off of Road Warrior, the characters were poorly written, and the environments bored even a color-blind man is what nailed the coffin on this film.
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 09:06 PM
Didn't the gas come from the tanker they converted to a base?
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Posted 10 December 2008 - 10:00 PM
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Didn't the gas come from the tanker they converted to a base?
Well yes some of it, but one scene I remember that just made me go "wtf where'd they get the gas?" is where the pirate guys come up from the water (how long did they have to stay weighted down below the surface for the element of surprise to pop up? I mean it makes little if any logical sense) on jet skies, I mean, first of all you'd have to have fuel to carry them around, and maintenance, and how did the *pirates* get the fuel? You'd think that would be a pretty rare find, at least in a usable/still sealed form.
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Posted 11 December 2008 - 11:36 PM
*Spoilers, read in case you really want to see the movie and haven't*
Maybe the movie would be better if there was still some land or as the world was turning to water. Maybe a flashback and better explanations of events. And I don't like how he has guills to help him breathe underwater if this is the same movie? It would take longer to adapt if at all I think?
And how does that one girl get a map on her back of one remote source of fresh water? The last fight scene was extremely corny too.
Maybe the movie would be better if there was still some land or as the world was turning to water. Maybe a flashback and better explanations of events. And I don't like how he has guills to help him breathe underwater if this is the same movie? It would take longer to adapt if at all I think?
And how does that one girl get a map on her back of one remote source of fresh water? The last fight scene was extremely corny too.
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It's not that bad, i actually enjoy this movie. I own it on the new Extended edition DVD with the version that improves on the film.
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*Spoilers, read in case you really want to see the movie and haven't*
Maybe the movie would be better if there was still some land or as the world was turning to water. Maybe a flashback and better explanations of events. And I don't like how he has guills to help him breathe underwater if this is the same movie? It would take longer to adapt if at all I think?
And how does that one girl get a map on her back of one remote source of fresh water? The last fight scene was extremely corny too.
Maybe the movie would be better if there was still some land or as the world was turning to water. Maybe a flashback and better explanations of events. And I don't like how he has guills to help him breathe underwater if this is the same movie? It would take longer to adapt if at all I think?
And how does that one girl get a map on her back of one remote source of fresh water? The last fight scene was extremely corny too.
She's got a map to the only place where mythical "dry land" exists (though how it didn't just become illegible as she grew, since I think it says she got it when she was a baby, is anybody's guess) which is **spoilerz** revealed to be Mount Everest at the very end, which somehow has also been able to sustain horses the whole time. Basically it's shown that global warming caused a global flood. Of course the real problem is not that we'll be overrun with water so much as what land we do have is slowly becoming less and less hospitable to human life (most of it already wasn't habitable as I understand, we're just adding to that enormously, and making the planet in general not very good for human life even where it is possible to sustain it).
And yeah, the gills on his neck is a very lol-able example of people not understanding how evolution works at all. (another good instance being how evolution is mentioned in the X-Men movies, which as everyone knows is really about race and sexuality, so no need to bring in something else that's "controversial", especially if unlike the former they misrepresent it/not a good metaphorical device X3)
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But if you're in on it, you can make it." - Vincent Price
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Posted 17 December 2008 - 11:21 PM
And the bad guy shoots the gun upwards at the girl who decides to fall backwards out of the balloon instead of forwards.
He also decides to run out of water as the movie is in production. How did they get any in the first place? A lot details go unexplained.
He also decides to run out of water as the movie is in production. How did they get any in the first place? A lot details go unexplained.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 07:10 AM
Every movie introduces people to a world that is different from the real one, even in dramas or romantic comedies. Very little of that stuff happens in real life to one person. And a lot of times the movie is judged by how well that world was thought out for the audience. Sometimes that world is more science fiction that anything else, and thus needs a little more explanation than the other worlds to make it believable. And "Waterworld" just wasn't explained enough for people to really understand it or enjoy it Not to mention the story is an obvious rip off of "Road Warrior".
Sometimes the extended cuts or the director's cuts improve the film greatly. They give more time for the movie to tell the story. I hear there's also a Director's Cut for "Deardevil" that actually makes it fun to watch!
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It's not that bad, i actually enjoy this movie. I own it on the new Extended edition DVD with the version that improves on the film.
Sometimes the extended cuts or the director's cuts improve the film greatly. They give more time for the movie to tell the story. I hear there's also a Director's Cut for "Deardevil" that actually makes it fun to watch!
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