48 replies to this topic

[chief]

The Best Trek was Voyager in my opinion. But TNG was good as well.

[acstrife]

I agree there!

When they picked Kate Mulgrew for the captain role, best move they could have made. The cameos of the old crews, the new alien species. (My fave was the dinosaur one) The crew getting home bit was a little overused, but in the end it all worked out.

Kept my behind in the seat watching every single episode.

[chief]

Yea, I watched every episode myself. And I got to say I liked Species 8472. Just because since TNG when Q first sent the Enterprise into Borg space Borg were always the bad asses. But then out came Species 8472 that could kick Borg ass.


Another thing I liked about Voyager is they used Borg a lot more then TNG, although in TNG the Borg were creepy ass.

[acstrife]

Ahhh yes fluidic space, and thier neato bioships. Thank God for those nano special torpedoes that blew them back to hell. An alliance with the Borg it would never work! And they were right!

They had one episode where Species 8472 were disguising themselves as federation officers to make future plans to invade. Funny how so much can go down to affect the Alpha Quadriant, when one is stuck in the Delta Quadrant.

[chief]

Hhahaha All this talk is making me want to watch Voyager again

[acstrife]

They still air it, 2 episodes on weekdays for me.

[The Man]

I know the show to well so sadly I don't watch them that much anymore. Maybe the movies once in a while and I might check out fanfics. Even the Marissa series. *gets tomatoed*

[Shadow]

Sorry but Voyager was completely terrible.
It took the best idea TNG had and just milked it dry(talking about the borg).Janeway was completely unlikable or someone you could relate to.I mean,they are lost out in the middle of nowhere where they dont even know if they will be alive when they drive all the way back and she gets multiple chances to take short cuts home yet...being the selfish bitch decides to stay out in borg territory where her crewmen get killed every other week.

Also,the acting was extremely wooden.They just stood there and EXPLAINED things.Thats all their was in Voyager...just explaining shit in techno babble.Sure,they did that in TNG but it wasn't as bad as Voyager took it to.

Only good thing about it was The Doctor and Seven.They are both awesome.

[acstrife]

Yea, Jeri Ryan sex appeal for the show!

[chief]

Oh they milked the borg idea dry but it was a good show still. And.. The doc was awesome I fully agree there.

[acstrife]

Robert Picardo was an excellent choice for the doctor position. His voice and air of superiority in his voice made the character real. Even if he was just a hologram.

[Shadow]

Chakotay had the personality of a doorknob.He seemed more emotionless and blank than a vulcan.He never seemed very emotional ever during the show.As I said before,he just explained shit in techno babble of how to help cure some scenario.

Tuvock was just a Spock ripoff.He was just a -insert alien char.- for the crew.Seven had a good backstory and her acting helped the character grow,but Tuvock seemed stuck in first gear.His character never grew or became of much notice.

They should have explored Species 8472 some more.Everything about the tone of the show seemed abit patronizing.Everyone on board were lost in space with slim chances to get home in borg space.It's hard to believe their was never anyone panicking or rebelling.

Since they were also in a unknown area of space it would have been good to have tooken advantage of more hostile aliens that were beyond their capabilities of making peace with since every world they went to they always seemed to make friends with.

Lets get some Azathoth in there!

[Tristan Palmgren]

Voyager was sub-par and the sooner you all recognize this the better off you'll be!

Deep Space Nine on the other hand...

[Kaotix]

Deep Space Nine wasn't interesting for me until they got the Defiant.

[chief]

Yea I didn't like DS9

[acstrife]

Too bad noone stuck around for the dominion wars where the Cardassians and the Dominion joined forces to crush the Federation/Klingon Alliance. Very interesting things happened there, thats when the show picked up.

Particulary when the event where Sisco had to do some very -questionable- actions with the stations local taylor Garak to convince the Romulon Empire to come over to the Federation's side.

But, to each their own on what people enjoy.

[furrykef]

Our local NBC affiliate used to show TNG at night -- this was around very early 2000s, so it was a while after DS9 had ended -- so watching it developed into something for a ritual for me when it was on. I'd always been a TNG fan since I discovered it, but that was when I started watching regularly. Then for some reason they eventually switched to DS9... I remember my mother telling me about DS9 when it was just getting started and the idea didn't impress me at the time. The whole fun of Star Trek, I thought, was exploring deep space -- exploring it, not sitting there cooped in a space station that doesn't go anywhere. So I'd never really watched it, but now my TNG was taken away and it had to do as a substitute.

Surprisingly, it was pretty good.

I don't think I'd made a mistake by not watching it when I was younger, though. DS9 is a lot more character-oriented than TNG was, and I didn't have an appreciation for that sort of drama when I was younger. For instance, one of the best DS9 episodes was when the DS9 crew visit the mirror universe for the first time -- incidentally, I hate the overuse of the mirror universe and such things, but it hadn't been beaten to death yet -- and they see how messed up things are... and it wasn't a straight "mirror universe is evil" flip-flop. We got to see different versions of the characters, not mere inversions. I remember in particular the plight of the mirror Miles O'Brien, who was essentially a slave but didn't (at first) want to escape his plight.

I never did end up watching the whole series -- I haven't seen all of TNG either, though I've seen a good majority of it, I think. They started showing TNG on TNN, but by then I'd kind of lost interest since it didn't fit into the "ritual" I'd already established. Someday I'll have to watch all the Trek stuff I've missed.

- Kef

[Ratty Randnums]

I'd like to just add two things
One Kef showed me where you can watch all of the original series online (at least in the continental US) for free/legally. :3
And thanks to Dominic I am now more glad than ever I didn't bother to watch the last Star Trek film that came out.

[furrykef]

I found that it may be even better to watch them here at cbs.com. The fullscreen works better, I think, and I haven't yet gotten the problem I sometimes get at veoh where commercials play endlessly and the show never plays.

They have a few high-def episodes, too, which have better special effects, etc., but I can't watch 'em on this laptop because the framerate is too low. I'll get my compy back tomorrow and maybe I'll get to watch 'em then.

- Kef

[acstrife]

Alright! DS9 still runs at 3am.

Sure, its real late. But hey, I'll take what I can gets.