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[HeavensChampion]

Why would Mobius be banned from the comics, anyway? 

[wishcatcher]

they also banned a ton of other things i think, like they literally put in a rule where sonic can never ever lose / it can never seem like hope is lost for him (which is absolute buffonery and i can see literally no reason for it! kids arent that dumb to have issues because of plots like that oh my god why would you limit a narrative to that extent) like theres a whole list of restrictions and its all related to not tarnishing sonics picture perfect branding like... one of them is also that sonic cant have any love interest at all AGAIN and again all the relation to sonic really makes me think its just brand over writing/narrative and i think they had a list somewhere on one of the wikis and im definitely biased because i miss some of the older themes but i think some stuff is just.... super pointless.

[wildfire]

It mostly is an issue with the age of the concept.  Most children today have no knowledge of Sega of America's tweaks to Sonic and his origins, in part due to Sega of Japan's marriage of the two continuities to prevent further confusion.  This started with Sonic Adventure of course.  There's also the issue of licensing of the original characters, which is something Sega doesn't seem to be interested in.  SatAM's characters were officially licensed by Sega of America back in the 90's, and as such are official characters.  But kids these days only know about Sonic Adventure and beyond, which isn't necessarily bad.  Concepts have to evolve over time after all, and SatAM was very much a product of it's time.

[HeavensChampion]

It mostly is an issue with the age of the concept.  Most children today have no knowledge of Sega of America's tweaks to Sonic and his origins, in part due to Sega of Japan's marriage of the two continuities to prevent further confusion.  This started with Sonic Adventure of course.  There's also the issue of licensing of the original characters, which is something Sega doesn't seem to be interested in.  SatAM's characters were officially licensed by Sega of America back in the 90's, and as such are official characters.  But kids these days only know about Sonic Adventure and beyond, which isn't necessarily bad.  Concepts have to evolve over time after all, and SatAM was very much a product of it's time.

 

So, you're saying Mobius should stay in the past?

[RedAuthar]

If we are to be honest with ourselves, the "mobius" as we know it will likely never return. If it does, it will be adjusted to the new storyline, so not really the same version.

The question becomes: do you want to see it changed or the same. Neither is a wrong answer, it just depends on how you envision it.

[wildfire]

I would never say that the Mobius we know and love should stay in the past. I was only pointing out that as a concept it's considered outdated. SEGA of Japan never had any interest in what we were up to in the States with regards to Sonic. I'm sure they were barely aware of the existence of SatAM, AoStH, or even SU. All those shows have their fans, but they are all 15 to 20 years older than anything SEGA had interest in. I'd love to see SatAM come back in some form, but I think if that were to happen it would definitely need a facelift.

[Wulfsbane]

Iizuka has been around for a while, I'm sure he's aware of SatAM.

[LogiTeeka]

Iizuka has been around for a while, I'm sure he's aware of SatAM.

 

Quite a number of people on the old Japanese development team are aware of the show, actually. Sonic's main character designer, Naoto Oshima, owns a copy of that iconic promotional cell of the SatAM cast and Kazuyuki Hoshino (the creator of Amy Rose and Metal Sonic) apparently kept an early script to an unspecified SatAM episode that was later donated to an American fan.

 

I have no clue what Iizuka's thoughts are regarding the series. But it's possible that he and some other crew members might've seen the show before since the recent "Sonic Forces" game appears to have taken some influence from it.

[Ishapar]

I'd blame Japanese culture for SOJ decision to remove SOA's Sonic franchise from mainstream Sonic.  Take a look at Japan's culture (both past and modern) and compare it to America's during the 90's.  More specifically, take a look at 90's Sonic game boxart from America in comparison to the Japanese box art.

[LogiTeeka]

I'd blame Japanese culture for SOJ decision to remove SOA's Sonic franchise from mainstream Sonic.  Take a look at Japan's culture (both past and modern) and compare it to America's during the 90's.  More specifically, take a look at 90's Sonic game boxart from America in comparison to the Japanese box art.

 

Eh. I think you might wanna try a better comparison since I think the Japanese boxart looked much more appealing than the American boxart - mostly in the character design department.

 

As much as I admire Greg Wray's artwork (mostly for nostalgic reasons), the American design of Sonic hasn't aged too well with me. The super-glossy skin, flat shoes, and that mohawk all look pretty jarring nowadays.

[HeavensChampion]

If we are to be honest with ourselves, the "mobius" as we know it will likely never return. If it does, it will be adjusted to the new storyline, so not really the same version.

The question becomes: do you want to see it changed or the same. Neither is a wrong answer, it just depends on how you envision it.

A different Mobius is better than no Mobius.

[RedAuthar]

I dunno, is AoStH mobius as good as SatAM mobius?

Naw, I'm with you actually, I'd rather see a mobius than nameless world. But I also wouldn't mind if mobius was called something different either just bebecause they cant use the name mobius.

[HeavensChampion]

Oroborous? Nah. Too long.

[Wulfsbane]

Underground's Mobius was rather interesting though.

 

The Aristocratic Elite working with Eggman

[LogiTeeka]

Underground's Mobius was rather interesting though.

 

The Aristocratic Elite working with Eggman

 

I concur. Part of me also likes to imagine the Nelvana animated film "Rock & Rule" as taking place in the same universe.