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@  Wulfsbane : (15 June 2019 - 06:12 PM)

As long as it wasnt GSW or Lebron...

@  Shadow : (13 June 2019 - 09:34 PM)

The Raptors won the NBA!

@  Sunnyfruit : (12 June 2019 - 02:44 PM)

Uh... I like video games too, but this is too much

@  GamemasterAn... : (12 June 2019 - 06:01 AM)

...and everyone is freaking out over that reveal. Dear Gaia...the reaction of the people at the Nintendo Center in NYC. People were actually HUGGING each other over that reveal!

@  Wulfsbane : (11 June 2019 - 07:46 PM)

Banjo-Kazooie is coming home, lads

@  Wulfsbane : (11 June 2019 - 07:17 AM)

The E3 Nintendo Direct starts in 45 minutes

@  chief : (10 June 2019 - 07:30 PM)

Oh we have controversial topic forum..Those have always existed. And I'm for that. Just keep personal user to user shit off the forums.

 

the Controversial topic thing would fall under "debate" now I guess. I had some good times in those forums with a few members.

@  chief : (10 June 2019 - 07:19 PM)

Yeah....I saw that...Blew game 6

@  Wulfsbane : (09 June 2019 - 07:35 PM)

Hey chief, we got a Game 7 on Wednesday

@  ShenFNWoo : (09 June 2019 - 09:28 AM)

Not really pressed about it, so it's no biggie to me. I'm only here for the S3 comic at this point, and maybe continuing to post mine. It's just too dead around here, and people are either too lazy, too occupied, or too afraid to share opinions as if words from feedback or response are going to hop out of the screen and attack them or something.

 

I'm an old ass man.... :(

@  ShenFNWoo : (09 June 2019 - 09:19 AM)

They generally don't last long on forums where management isn't objective about running a forum. People generally don't have the restrain/discipline to not mod it. Someone's going to catch feelings, disregarding the thousand disclaimers on the front post of the section and still hit up the admins whining about the hurty things that mean man x said to them. And the admins will feel obliged to do something about it, when ignoring it is definitely an option.

 

Again, generally speaking, people want the good of things and not the bad or the drawbacks that come with it. It's why facebook and twitter have like buttons, but no dislike button. It's why youtube demonitizes wrongspeak. It's why forums ban people for private disputes between members despite the fact that there's every tool under the sun to stop a person from bothering them available to users. It's anti hate speech is considered a thing to uphold, when hate speech is free speech, no exceptions. It's why politics are a mess. For society, the message is clear, whine until you get your way, and the lowest common denominator being as loud as they are will set the precedent for everyone else despite able bodies. For all this acting like adults thing that society pushes, society at large doesn't expect anyone to actually BE one.

@  Shadow : (09 June 2019 - 07:56 AM)

Didn't we have a controversial/rant rave section of the forum at one point

@  chief : (08 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

Lets try to keep any personal issues out of the shoutbox. Or forums all together.

@  ShenFNWoo : (07 June 2019 - 05:52 PM)

Nothing much. Just wanted to make sure a certain person didn't get the wrong idea about how it is between us. I don't forget certain details, and things don't change no matter how much time passes unless they show some willingness to want to fix things.

@  furrykef : (07 June 2019 - 05:34 PM)

I have no idea what's going on here.

@  ShenFNWoo : (07 June 2019 - 09:58 AM)

This will be my first time (without accident) speaking to you directly, so I want to make this perfectly clear: I have a strict policy on how to deal with people who block others without sufficient reason (aka running away from a zero conflict situation). We do not talk, we do not exchange ideas, and you are invisible to me possibly forever, depending on you. Communications with you in particular will reopen at a future time equivalent to the amount of time in which you've had me blocked thus far. In the mean time, I'll add you to my foe list, and/or manually disregard everything you say to me. Cheers! ^_^

@  Wulfsbane : (07 June 2019 - 06:24 AM)

They're pretty rabid

@  Wulfsbane : (07 June 2019 - 06:24 AM)

I mean have you seen some of his defenders?

@  ShenFNWoo : (07 June 2019 - 05:41 AM)

What example of ineptitude would pay 499$ for the artwork of a guy who helped bring ruin to the very comics he worked for?

@  Sunnyfruit : (07 June 2019 - 01:58 AM)

I guess '97 was before he could enjoy his "creative freedom" in terms of design. Probably a standard pose he copied a hundred times before.


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#81 Wulfsbane

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 09:21 PM

Okay, I was fine with the conversation naturally derailing to this point but this has turned into a full blown debate and is no longer about the IDW Sonic Comic.

 

Please take it to the debate section guys or bring it back on topic.

 

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As per request, Comicsgate Debate has it's own topic in the Debate Thread.  The last 8 posts were moved over to get it started.  Thanks!  Thanks Ben for keeping us in line.  


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Posted 18 November 2018 - 04:09 PM

Hmm, just from hearing the discussions from this topic I guess I am glad I haven't been part of the Archie reboot or the IDW series.  A problem I have with video game comics in general is that they try to tie in a games' storyline into the comic's.  Archie did this plenty of times, and despite only being familiar with the early issues I will say that the video game references seemed forced upon the main continuity of the main comic series.  There is nothing wrong with using the game's story as an arc in the comics, but I feel writers need to do a better job at tying the plots into a more cohesive bigger story.


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Posted 18 November 2018 - 06:43 PM

Hmm, just from hearing the discussions from this topic I guess I am glad I haven't been part of the Archie reboot or the IDW series.  A problem I have with video game comics in general is that they try to tie in a games' storyline into the comic's.  Archie did this plenty of times, and despite only being familiar with the early issues I will say that the video game references seemed forced upon the main continuity of the main comic series.  There is nothing wrong with using the game's story as an arc in the comics, but I feel writers need to do a better job at tying the plots into a more cohesive bigger story.

 

That's actually what the reboot did better than the original continuity, in my opinion. The old universe felt like a relic that tried to carry the legacy of SatAM but the burden of different writers and alternating directions enforced by SEGA forced the comic to become this weird hodgepodge of ideas that never really seemed to gell together. Sure, there was plenty of material to draw upon for extensive lore and such, but it still felt like a confused mess.

 

The reboot, on the other hand, had a much more consistent tone with what it was trying to be - an expansion of the world presented in the games with some SatAM/Archie lore added in to complement the worldbuilding. And while it wasn't 100% canonical to the games, it still felt like the world you would've wanted to have seen explored further in the series. And as someone who grew up with the games (primarily the Dreamcast/Gamecube/GBA era), this got a lot of nostalgia outta me.



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Posted 29 November 2018 - 07:27 PM

After reading the newest issue currently, I am getting very frustrated by Ian's writing. He knows how to set up a good first and second act for a story arc, but absolutely blunders it in the last act. He seems to write his villains as being successful and intelligent, yet writes himself into a corner with the only way out is for them to do something stupid out of left field to give Sonic and friends the win. Like when Naugus got juiced with the master emerald, and decided to step off it and take a nap instead of finishing off his enemies. Or this new arc where for some reason Neo Metal Sonic lost his super form when he transformed into Overlord mode, despite still having the master emerald glued to him.



#85 Wulfsbane

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 09:16 PM

Yeah I have said a few times that Ian can start an Arc out really well but he sputters out towards the end. I'm starting to question if he fully plans everything out before he goes at it and if he does is he changing his mind halfway through. If this is how Ian is going to continue, I would be worried if he writes a game and does something like this there too.

 

I've seen a lot of people defending this by saying "well you can't have the arc being too long (a la SWC)." Which, yeah I agree, you dont want it to drag on for too long but at the same time the way they built up NMS & NMO for the both of them to be defeated in one issue each seems really weak.  With NMS/SNMS you had something really interesting but now I'm just gonna think "Well they just need to stall until Shadow gets there so he can 1 shot him" going forward.

 

Could have extended the arc by 2 issues, make the fight last longer with them trying to come up with a better plan then executing it...  I doubt you would have had a lot of complaints at the end.

 

 

 

Yeah, We all know Sonic will win in the end but raise the stakes a bit and give us the impression that he might not win this time.


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 10:31 PM

If it was me I'd have had Metal Overlord keep the super form but push him so that his mechanical body would overload after an extended period and blow himself up, with Neo Metal shedding his large form and finish him with Tails ramming the ship into him and crashing into the sea with a nice explosion.



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Posted 30 November 2018 - 09:04 AM

If it was me I'd have had Metal Overlord keep the super form but push him so that his mechanical body would overload after an extended period and blow himself up, with Neo Metal shedding his large form and finish him with Tails ramming the ship into him and crashing into the sea with a nice explosion.

 

Nah. Readers still would've complained that Neo Metal being defeated by his own power and getting crushed would've been anti-climatic.



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Posted 30 November 2018 - 01:23 PM

Well that's the problem with chaos emerald super forms. They cannot be overpowered or outmatched, so the only option is to run the gauntlet until they get tired like in the games when the rings drop to zero.



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Posted 01 December 2018 - 05:20 AM

 

If it was me I'd have had Metal Overlord keep the super form but push him so that his mechanical body would overload after an extended period and blow himself up, with Neo Metal shedding his large form and finish him with Tails ramming the ship into him and crashing into the sea with a nice explosion.

 

Nah. Readers still would've complained that Neo Metal being defeated by his own power and getting crushed would've been anti-climatic.

 

 

Rather have NMS be defeated by the power he couldn't handle than Shadow one-shoting him


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

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Posted 01 December 2018 - 10:07 AM

Rather have NMS be defeated by the power he couldn't handle than Shadow one-shoting him

 

Given how robots like Mecha Sonic had no issue in achieving a Super form via the Master Emerald, wouldn't Metal Sonic also have a similar capability?



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Posted 02 December 2018 - 09:51 AM

 

Rather have NMS be defeated by the power he couldn't handle than Shadow one-shoting him

 

Given how robots like Mecha Sonic had no issue in achieving a Super form via the Master Emerald, wouldn't Metal Sonic also have a similar capability?

 

 

Maybe later on. Could easily show here that he doesn't know how to handle it.

 

Plus adding the Master Emerald could overload him


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Posted 13 December 2018 - 10:11 PM

Issue 11: The Resistance may have struggled against the Master Overlord, but in the end, they defeated him and saved Angel Island. But one question remains: Who is Dr. Starline, and what does he want with Eggman. Sure he isn't changing him back to normal for nothing.

In hindsight, how would NMS know about Rough and Tumble? Did Starline know about their taking over that one village back in Issue 3?

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 10:41 PM

Did anyone else picture Starline with a German doctor accent? I kinda pictured Richtofan's voice from BO1.


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Posted 4 weeks ago

Anyone found it odd that Starline didn't bring back Eggman's memories, but Eggman touching Metal Sonic did? Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I feel like this is SEGA telling IDW that the comic characters must always be inferior to the game characters. Then again, Tangle and Whisper are getting their own miniseries, so I could just be overanalyzing it.



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Posted 4 weeks ago

Anyone found it odd that Starline didn't bring back Eggman's memories, but Eggman touching Metal Sonic did? Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I feel like this is SEGA telling IDW that the comic characters must always be inferior to the game characters. Then again, Tangle and Whisper are getting their own miniseries, so I could just be overanalyzing it.


I’m pretty sure it was just because Eggman is much more attached to Metal than he would be anything else ^^

Probably not much to do with Starline being inferior in any way.

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Posted 3 weeks ago

Starline is just a inferior Finitevus anyway.



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Posted 3 weeks ago

Well, Starline hasn't gotten much spotlight time outside of Eggman, but there's still plenty of development room for him as a character.
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