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@  Wulfsbane : (24 May 2019 - 07:18 AM)

Sonic film delayed by 3 months

@  Shadow : (23 May 2019 - 09:43 PM)

Is their enough artists to keep the comic going?

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 08:02 PM)

As for that cell...wow 2 thousand

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 07:27 PM)

As for discord...Yeah I'm looking into doing one. I mean I already use one for the comic staff and others. So looking into creating a FUS one

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 07:26 PM)

So my goal there is to be fully transparent

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 07:25 PM)

Its a big task...Yeah. And honestly...Well I sure as hell hope we pull it off. Just 1 episode would be great.

 

Our plan is to make all the money raised totally transparent. As the patreons will see how much we have and wen we have to spend it on something like painted backgrounds etc we will tell them who it is going to and how much etc. I hate raising money..the rest of the team just sorta said we kinda have to for some of the artists we need.

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 07:23 PM)

Also chatted with people in sega...on the corporate front which gets you no where cause of Sega of America and legal with Sega of Japan...but on a more personal talk with employees etc

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 07:22 PM)

The comic is actually starting to move along good. The issue with the comic was staffing. Only 2 artists.

 

The animated bit....Okay I was totally unsure years back when I was first approached to try it...And I was right to be that. This time I was half approached half just chatting with people again and started to figure out what went wrong..Why we lost our sega contacts (they restructured...) and so on.

 

also this time we...well refused to go public till now. Its been a work in progress since October/November. Weve got proper scripts, storyboard artist working on all that. we contacted people to help out....a lot...and some said they would (and are). Even chatted with DHX (the studio that owns s1 and s2 plus all writes)

@  nzoomed : (23 May 2019 - 05:41 PM)

count me in

@  Ishapar : (23 May 2019 - 05:38 PM)

Crazy...I didn't think you guys would do it. It was hard enough to keep the Sea3on comic alive: you guys sure you're up for this?

@  nzoomed : (23 May 2019 - 05:19 PM)

wow an animated series at last? this is awesome. i hope we get similar animation to the original series. Getting the voices right will be hard.

@  Shadow : (23 May 2019 - 01:41 PM)

Right here, bud https://www.patreon.com/sea3on/posts

@  Ishapar : (23 May 2019 - 12:27 PM)

I know I haven't been around for awhile, but what did I miss? You guys started a patreon for Season 3?

@  ShenFNWoo : (23 May 2019 - 06:42 AM)

Don't worry, I gotcha fam 8-)

@  ShenFNWoo : (23 May 2019 - 06:42 AM)

Or is what happened the reason why it's usually dead around here? Zoom view past the incoming thunderstorm to make out microscopic details on the surface of the moon, when there's plenty of opportunity to notice both?

@  ShenFNWoo : (23 May 2019 - 06:39 AM)

@Kef, I'm reading context clues. That's how I know you're not interested. I can feel the low key disrespect from orbit

 

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@  nzoomed : (23 May 2019 - 02:17 AM)

@ furrykef Good pointing that out on the cel, i see what you mean after looking at the intro. Its very possible this was an early concept cel and was scrapped. Possible also that they had decided to give her more prominent robotic legs early in the characters design perhaps?

@  randomizer : (23 May 2019 - 02:17 AM)

Satam is full of animation errors. This is one of my favourites: https://i.imgur.com/aYo73nh.jpg

@  Shadow : (23 May 2019 - 02:04 AM)

Their was a lot of color problems if you ever pause the frames of episodes.

@  furrykef : (22 May 2019 - 10:02 PM)

Okay, I just had a real close look at the intro. Bunnie holds that pose for two frames. In the first, Sonic's in front of one thigh and the other thigh is colored correctly (gray). In the second frame, Sonic covers both thighs. But I looked real close and I noticed in the first frame you do get a glimpse of Bunnie's hidden thigh... and it's brown. So I think the gray thigh was a separate cel that was overlaid to correct the colors, or it was corrected in postproduction.


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#1 HeavensChampion

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Posted 18 February 2019 - 09:59 PM

Why would Mobius be banned from the comics, anyway? 



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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:45 AM

they also banned a ton of other things i think, like they literally put in a rule where sonic can never ever lose / it can never seem like hope is lost for him (which is absolute buffonery and i can see literally no reason for it! kids arent that dumb to have issues because of plots like that oh my god why would you limit a narrative to that extent) like theres a whole list of restrictions and its all related to not tarnishing sonics picture perfect branding like... one of them is also that sonic cant have any love interest at all AGAIN and again all the relation to sonic really makes me think its just brand over writing/narrative and i think they had a list somewhere on one of the wikis and im definitely biased because i miss some of the older themes but i think some stuff is just.... super pointless.



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Posted 10 March 2019 - 08:28 PM

It mostly is an issue with the age of the concept.  Most children today have no knowledge of Sega of America's tweaks to Sonic and his origins, in part due to Sega of Japan's marriage of the two continuities to prevent further confusion.  This started with Sonic Adventure of course.  There's also the issue of licensing of the original characters, which is something Sega doesn't seem to be interested in.  SatAM's characters were officially licensed by Sega of America back in the 90's, and as such are official characters.  But kids these days only know about Sonic Adventure and beyond, which isn't necessarily bad.  Concepts have to evolve over time after all, and SatAM was very much a product of it's time.


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Posted 23 March 2019 - 10:10 AM

It mostly is an issue with the age of the concept.  Most children today have no knowledge of Sega of America's tweaks to Sonic and his origins, in part due to Sega of Japan's marriage of the two continuities to prevent further confusion.  This started with Sonic Adventure of course.  There's also the issue of licensing of the original characters, which is something Sega doesn't seem to be interested in.  SatAM's characters were officially licensed by Sega of America back in the 90's, and as such are official characters.  But kids these days only know about Sonic Adventure and beyond, which isn't necessarily bad.  Concepts have to evolve over time after all, and SatAM was very much a product of it's time.

 

So, you're saying Mobius should stay in the past?



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Posted 23 March 2019 - 07:15 PM

If we are to be honest with ourselves, the "mobius" as we know it will likely never return. If it does, it will be adjusted to the new storyline, so not really the same version.

The question becomes: do you want to see it changed or the same. Neither is a wrong answer, it just depends on how you envision it.

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 07:31 AM

I would never say that the Mobius we know and love should stay in the past. I was only pointing out that as a concept it's considered outdated. SEGA of Japan never had any interest in what we were up to in the States with regards to Sonic. I'm sure they were barely aware of the existence of SatAM, AoStH, or even SU. All those shows have their fans, but they are all 15 to 20 years older than anything SEGA had interest in. I'd love to see SatAM come back in some form, but I think if that were to happen it would definitely need a facelift.
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Posted 24 March 2019 - 02:57 PM

Iizuka has been around for a while, I'm sure he's aware of SatAM.


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Posted 24 March 2019 - 10:37 PM

Iizuka has been around for a while, I'm sure he's aware of SatAM.

 

Quite a number of people on the old Japanese development team are aware of the show, actually. Sonic's main character designer, Naoto Oshima, owns a copy of that iconic promotional cell of the SatAM cast and Kazuyuki Hoshino (the creator of Amy Rose and Metal Sonic) apparently kept an early script to an unspecified SatAM episode that was later donated to an American fan.

 

I have no clue what Iizuka's thoughts are regarding the series. But it's possible that he and some other crew members might've seen the show before since the recent "Sonic Forces" game appears to have taken some influence from it.



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Posted 25 March 2019 - 09:33 AM

I'd blame Japanese culture for SOJ decision to remove SOA's Sonic franchise from mainstream Sonic.  Take a look at Japan's culture (both past and modern) and compare it to America's during the 90's.  More specifically, take a look at 90's Sonic game boxart from America in comparison to the Japanese box art.


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Posted 25 March 2019 - 09:51 AM

I'd blame Japanese culture for SOJ decision to remove SOA's Sonic franchise from mainstream Sonic.  Take a look at Japan's culture (both past and modern) and compare it to America's during the 90's.  More specifically, take a look at 90's Sonic game boxart from America in comparison to the Japanese box art.

 

Eh. I think you might wanna try a better comparison since I think the Japanese boxart looked much more appealing than the American boxart - mostly in the character design department.

 

As much as I admire Greg Wray's artwork (mostly for nostalgic reasons), the American design of Sonic hasn't aged too well with me. The super-glossy skin, flat shoes, and that mohawk all look pretty jarring nowadays.



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Posted 26 March 2019 - 09:33 PM

If we are to be honest with ourselves, the "mobius" as we know it will likely never return. If it does, it will be adjusted to the new storyline, so not really the same version.

The question becomes: do you want to see it changed or the same. Neither is a wrong answer, it just depends on how you envision it.

A different Mobius is better than no Mobius.



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Posted 28 March 2019 - 05:11 PM

I dunno, is AoStH mobius as good as SatAM mobius? xD

Naw, I'm with you actually, I'd rather see a mobius than nameless world. But I also wouldn't mind if mobius was called something different either just bebecause they cant use the name mobius.

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Posted 28 March 2019 - 06:26 PM

Oroborous? Nah. Too long.



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 06:49 PM

Underground's Mobius was rather interesting though.

 

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 08:30 PM

Underground's Mobius was rather interesting though.

 

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I concur. Part of me also likes to imagine the Nelvana animated film "Rock & Rule" as taking place in the same universe.





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