You'd be surprised by what I personally find endearing. Sure, appearances can be complementary, but judging likeability just by looks alone is not my style since I think it's pretty shallow.
I choose to think this is your view on characters and not real people. There really is no denying that visuals practically dominate human interaction. People can act like they aren't concerned with standards of beauty if they like and act all virtuous and stuff, but inevitably, they're going to wind up with someone at least moderately attractive.
They've complained about that as well. How else do you explain the various costume changes?
You mean back then or now? Because I've seen them in the same costumes for the longest time growing up in the 90's and first decade of the 2000's. The only reason they changed costumes from time to time was to provide something fresh. The only costume changes I notice nowadays are due to the political climate changing to satisfy the wusses and the snowflakes.
As for a comparison, let's compare Sally's finalized design for the first season:
And compare it to Sally's original design from the pilot:
I would've been fine with either one of these. They still look better than what has come out of the redesign.
Not really. Some artists were downright awful at drawing her.
The only picture that looks like trash is the first one. And that's just because of bad drawing. Should've never been hired. Of course skill plays a role in depicting something correctly, but it doesn't necessarily deter from the original concept just because someone decided to take artistic liberties... In that one she looks like she's got a super serious mullet and stoned out of her FN mind. Her eyes aren't even done in that feminine style that she's supposed to have. Of course she looks awful.
I can think of a better reason why you don't like the latter, and that's personal preference.
You're constantly trying to even the playing field by busting my stance on the issue down to a mere opinion. Alright fine – the only thing I 'prefer' is that it be the same character.... It's not the same character. This is more than just some simple “I like/dislike this” at first glance, no thought put into it.
Okay, let me try putting it this way.... You can (and I've seen it done), make a more fitting Sally for the Sonic Adventure art style (which is only sonic made more anime anyway) that looks pretty much like the original Sally. You may need to browse DA a bit more, I've seen it done a hell of a lot of times – I think a few times by a person named awesomeblossompossom. Again, I don't dislike the idea of them being made to fit in with the Sega Sonic art direction. There's no problem there. I don't necessarily have to mind the putting on clothes. There's a reason I don't dislike the Bunnie redesign you know.
Check it. Sally on the far end. Just pretend that this was in SA artstyle, and you pretty much have what I would've redesigned Sally to look like.
Now this took forever to find, but I'm glad I did -
Now you tell me, does that head and face look like it would be too out of place in the current Sonic universe, especially if it was combined with a different costume like the one I mentioned above, and with SA proportions?
Hell, I just found this:
Also does the source material justice. How haven't you come across any of these?
As I said before, not all designs translate well into 3D. I mean, it wouldn't work for SatAM Sally either:
>_> I see your redesign Sally and raise you....
How's that? :3
I really hoped you were....
Skelly is more of a stylized artist. Perhaps you're looking for a design that's more cartoonish in appearance?
What about a skilled tennis player with lightsaber blades that can cut through solid steel? That sounds pretty badass.
She'd get shot
If they can have both sillier and serious-toned shows with hardly any complaints, I don't see why Sonic can't also have one as well.
If Sega allowed us to have our unaffected Satam alongside comics meant solely for promoting their games, I wouldn't even be commenting about this.
I said Sonic is for a general audience; I didn't say it was exclusively for kids. Anyone of any age can watch stuff like Winnie the Pooh or Darkwing Duck and still get some enjoyment out of it. Likewise, Sonic is no different.
You'll have to excuse me when I don't comprehend. It's murder for me to do all this quote editing. I probably won't reply in good time like I have been for a while because I haven't come up with a method for typing in this text editor reply feature that saves me any kind of time.
Anyway, basically, I think you can achieve a good creation without the need to offend either party (the young'uns or the older players/readers/watchers). It comes with making a series that doesn't mix and match polarizing elements. Not to mention, Pooh and Duck don't do that much at all. Pooh is obviously meant for kids, while, Duck is meant for a range between kids and early teens. And wierdly enough, neither one of them have any cringe that I've witnessed.
She's not bald, she's furry.
Well, in a transition from furry to human, as the hair recedes into their skin, what parts do you think are going to go bald first? That's the general standard you go by to figure out what a character would look like if they were human, so “technically” yes, she IS bald in the front and on top. She's got the kusarageddo hair going on a bit.
What? Weren't we talking about people we didn't want to socialize with?
Lol, no? At least I wasn't.
Sally has gotten a lot of flack for being nude, despite having fur and wearing a vest and boots, so they had her wear clothes that would conceal her bareness while still keeping it within character.
They should stop catering to scrubs.
Antoine's uniform was removed since male Mobian characters typically have less clothing. Plus, it was (unfortunately) tied to Penders because he gave it a backstory that can no longer be addressed.
So the answer was to allow Penders to STEAL what was originally theirs and let him claim ownership? Wow
And Rotor, well... fans got tired of him always being a minor character. So instead of regulating him to the background, they had him beefed up so that he can partake in the action.
They could've made him similar to that professor looking guy from GitS. Doesn't go out doing much of anything, but important all the same.
And Nicole's original design invoked that of a Greek goddess, which made sense considering the city she controlled. Now that New Mobotropolis and the nanites are no longer present due to legal reasons, Nicole no longer had the need for that aesthetic.
No one can put a copyright on nanomachines. It's a general concept. They're allowing Penders to get away with murder.
Some people prefer the more cartoony style. I myself do.
Cartoony doesn't have to mean less detailed.
While I agree that the postmodern movement can be incredibly pretentious for the wrong reasons, I still don't see anything wrong with having a distinct style. If all art looked the same, it would be boring.
No one's arguing that there's something wrong with having a distinct style. You can have that distinct style just by drawing. You don't have to help matters along by being lazy(er) and making a mess and calling it art.
You don't have to look edgy or complicated in order to be mature.
I doubt anyone disagrees. Again, this is just a question of taking the lazy route in artwork
No, it wouldn't have worked. It clashes too much against Sonic's simple style.
I think you really need to check Deviant Art more. A lot of you guys seem so secretive and set in your ways when opening up could do you a lot more good. It almost looks like I'm the only member around here these days that have their contact info open and out there to chatted with. No one has said shit to me these entire like, what, 3 years, and it has nothing to do with me not getting along with the Scrubs of Mobius (despite my never having said anything to any of them save one person). If you haven't seen a Sally Acorn art piece that embodies the original sally design while being in line with Sonic Adventure's art style, I think you're being way to reserved.