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@  furrykef : (17 March 2019 - 02:30 PM)

I mostly just check in to validate new users and to zap spambots. Obviously, we get far, far more spambots.

@  randomizer : (17 March 2019 - 12:08 AM)

I pop in every couple of days but I don't really have much to say so I mostly just lurk.

@  wildfire : (15 March 2019 - 11:33 PM)

Not looking for anything particular here, but since we got people checking daily, I thought I'd point out that I posted a new topic in SatAM Chat. Show a guy some love and check it out.

@  wildfire : (15 March 2019 - 10:56 PM)

bout the same for me too. I honestly don't remember at this point.

@  Shadow : (14 March 2019 - 01:50 PM)

I been here since I was 14 years old.

@  John Roberts : (14 March 2019 - 12:39 AM)

I lurk, too. Sometimes. Maybe us seniors should just meet up at a retirement village.

@  John Roberts : (14 March 2019 - 12:38 AM)

Hiho Wildfire!

@  wildfire : (13 March 2019 - 10:39 PM)

It doesn't help that everything i post on dies. But seriously, I do try and poke my head in from time to time. FUS was family to me for several years. I doubt I'll ever truly leave.

@  Shadow : (11 March 2019 - 04:43 PM)

I did mention before on the idea of a monthly podcast channel.

@  ShenFNWoo : (11 March 2019 - 06:06 AM)

Yeah, it's that kind of thinking that keeps this place dead, mang :\

@  wildfire : (10 March 2019 - 07:42 PM)

I still pop in from time to time. I'm like a professional lurker. As a senior member I think its fair to say I've earned that right. ;) Miss you guys.

@  ShenFNWoo : (10 March 2019 - 07:18 AM)

Rereading that, a lot of that came out completely wrong. But then again, it is a shoutbox, I don't know what the max word count is on the thing.

@  ShenFNWoo : (09 March 2019 - 07:25 AM)

As I've said many times before... IF the problem is that they themselves can't do it, then the guys running this place could possibly outsource in some form or fashion to people with more time to help work on this comic here. There's clearly people willing to pay for it, and even crowdfunding might be an option.

@  ShenFNWoo : (09 March 2019 - 07:23 AM)

There's really nothing stopping us. All we have to do is want to do this stuff.

 

Dr. Phil once said bored people are boring. Why a clinical psychologist who admits that most of the problem is of a functional nature within a patient's brain would believe this, I don't know, but there IS truth to that. Those who can't find something to try to work with to have or make a good time are usually just devoid of character themselves.

@  ShenFNWoo : (09 March 2019 - 07:21 AM)

I have a friend that's working on our game concept ideas who has major depression and horrible anxiety, 3 kids and a horrible job that takes up most of his day. He constantly gets on some of our team member's cases (even mine) about how there's 24 hours a day, and how Schwartzenegger's motivational speech can do wonders for us.

@  ShenFNWoo : (09 March 2019 - 07:19 AM)

OR we can make our own sonic stuff, and put together something that could tide us over until the 'official' sea3on starts back up.

@  ShenFNWoo : (09 March 2019 - 07:18 AM)

We're all here because we like Sonic. We want more of it. When there is no Sonic to speak of, we could EASILY branch off into other topics, and continue discussing that stuff instead.

@  ShenFNWoo : (09 March 2019 - 07:00 AM)

Like, disagreements will NOT murder your world. You'll live. There were intense discussions that kinda just faded into dust. Most here seem to be polarized hard in either direction. People who're too conservative, and then those who swallow libtard nonsense regarding gamergate. And when disagreement that strong appears, people want it shut down. At this point, if I were running the place, I'd take any and all discussion

@  ShenFNWoo : (09 March 2019 - 06:58 AM)

And I'm not just talking about what happens with me. Nothing extracurricular around here gets much of any attention. People seem to be afraid to get their thoughts challenged, so they just get dissuaded from participating.

@  ShenFNWoo : (09 March 2019 - 06:56 AM)

Like, there are artists here and writers here. I draw something for you guys, and sometimes I get a reply, but for the most part, people just look at it and go about their business. Don't you WANT more content being posted?


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#41 RedAuthar

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 02:43 PM

Just in my defense, 8/10 times I've been less efficient in a group. Only when I need help with a task has a group sped up my progress, and very rarely has it improved my quality.

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 06:02 PM

Ah, but there's a difference between a group whose members can complement each other's strengths and weaknesses, and a group of random people.

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 06:19 PM

Ah, but there's a difference between a group whose members can complement each other's strengths and weaknesses, and a group of random people.

 

 

Exactly. Collaboration is the hallmark of every great work, every artistic endeavor has some form of extraneous support. Not mention if they have the same convictions pertaining to execution and end goals... then it will only improve the productivity and quality of the work. 
 
One person carrying that burden sounds like a stupid idea. If his legs go out from under him...so does the comic.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 06:27 PM

One person carrying that burden sounds like a stupid idea. If his legs go out from under him...so does the comic.

 

 

Yep. I might be interested in penciling - will email some samples. I've never done comics before though, so an example script would be great to try out. Paneling is an art all its own.



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 06:45 PM

 

One person carrying that burden sounds like a stupid idea. If his legs go out from under him...so does the comic.

 

 

Yep. I might be interested in penciling - will email some samples. I've never done comics before though, so an example script would be great to try out. Paneling is an art all its own.

 

 

Yes, it is. It's all about making things fit together and flow from one panel to the next.

 

There are whole books dedicated to it, Like Wizard's How to Draw: Storytelling.



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 07:16 PM


Ah, but there's a difference between a group whose members can complement each other's strengths and weaknesses, and a group of random people.



Exactly. Collaboration is the hallmark of every great work, every artistic endeavor has some form of extraneous support. Not mention if they have the same convictions pertaining to execution and end goals... then it will only improve the productivity and quality of the work.

One person carrying that burden sounds like a stupid idea. If his legs go out from under him...so does the comic.
1) Many great artists did not have support from anyone.

2) That same one person can cause a whole group to collapse if they can't pull their own weight.

The trick is we have to test it first before we can determine if it'll be worth the effort.

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 07:25 PM

 

 

Ah, but there's a difference between a group whose members can complement each other's strengths and weaknesses, and a group of random people.



Exactly. Collaboration is the hallmark of every great work, every artistic endeavor has some form of extraneous support. Not mention if they have the same convictions pertaining to execution and end goals... then it will only improve the productivity and quality of the work.

One person carrying that burden sounds like a stupid idea. If his legs go out from under him...so does the comic.
1) Many great artists did not have support from anyone.

2) That same one person can cause a whole group to collapse if they can't pull their own weight.

The trick is we have to test it first before we can determine if it'll be worth the effort.

 

 

I don't mind testing the group dynamic.

 

1) Hmm...like Leonoardo Da Vinci (Catholic Church/Private Suppoters), Michelangelo (Catholic Church/Private Supporters), Shakespear (English Royalty/Other Aristocratic Supporters), Stephen King (his wife saved Carrie from being throw in the trash). And that's just people backing them financly. Every episodic work like this has taken a team...

 

2). Preventable and fixable, especially if you have someone like me who can do more than one thing.



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 07:57 PM

I wasn't aware their were condition's of applying. I sent off preexisting comic pages I had done as what I can do.



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 10:51 PM

1) Financial backing doesn't count.  Being paid to do something is not a collaboration.  

 

2) Unfair counter-argument. If we are considering this person to fall behind on their own they still would in the group.  If the person can't carry their own weight in the group, Unless someone else is doing the same job, it causes the same amount of damage.  



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 11:21 PM

1) Financial backing doesn't count.  Being paid to do something is not a collaboration.  

 

2) Unfair counter-argument. If we are considering this person to fall behind on their own they still would in the group.  If the person can't carry their own weight in the group, Unless someone else is doing the same job, it causes the same amount of damage.  

 

1) I already gave you one King gets support via very close friends during the editing process. But all the credits to your favorite movies should work just as fine. xD...Afterall, I've never seen a movie where it just says: made by me. Comics are the same way in many respects. You got writers, pencilers, inkers, colorists, letters/composers, publishers (both print and digital).

 

2) This con can be margianlized through proper screening of the choosen individuals and some oversight. And like I already said you can have overlap and auxillary through guys like myself who have done all three. 



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 09:32 AM

If we are considering this person to fall behind on their own they still would in the group.  If the person can't carry their own weight in the group, Unless someone else is doing the same job, it causes the same amount of damage.


While it would still be bad for somebody to fall behind, I think the point is that we can cover each other if it should happen, whereas with no team, a holdup means no comic. For example, supposing a hypothetical team of you, me, and The Red Stranger (we have way too many Reds around here...), IIRC, all three of us can pencil, ink, and color. We might have our preferences, but if one of us fails to do our job, we have two other people who can do it until the third guy recovers or is replaced as appropriate.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 09:41 AM

 

If we are considering this person to fall behind on their own they still would in the group.  If the person can't carry their own weight in the group, Unless someone else is doing the same job, it causes the same amount of damage.


While it would still be bad for somebody to fall behind, I think the point is that we can cover each other if it should happen, whereas with no team, a holdup means no comic. For example, supposing a hypothetical team of you, me, and The Red Stranger (we have way too many Reds around here...), IIRC, all three of us can pencil, ink, and color. We might have our preferences, but if one of us fails to do our job, we have two other people who can do it until the third guy recovers or is replaced as appropriate.

 

That makes a lot more sense.  

 

Still the group needs to be tested before we know if it's the method to take.  



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:05 PM

 

 

If we are considering this person to fall behind on their own they still would in the group.  If the person can't carry their own weight in the group, Unless someone else is doing the same job, it causes the same amount of damage.


While it would still be bad for somebody to fall behind, I think the point is that we can cover each other if it should happen, whereas with no team, a holdup means no comic. For example, supposing a hypothetical team of you, me, and The Red Stranger (we have way too many Reds around here...), IIRC, all three of us can pencil, ink, and color. We might have our preferences, but if one of us fails to do our job, we have two other people who can do it until the third guy recovers or is replaced as appropriate.

 

That makes a lot more sense.  

 

Still the group needs to be tested before we know if it's the method to take.  

 

 

Uh, that's what I just said as well (sorry if I was being verbos or convoluted). xD

 

 I agree with you en toto.



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 04:46 PM



If we are considering this person to fall behind on their own they still would in the group. If the person can't carry their own weight in the group, Unless someone else is doing the same job, it causes the same amount of damage.

While it would still be bad for somebody to fall behind, I think the point is that we can cover each other if it should happen, whereas with no team, a holdup means no comic. For example, supposing a hypothetical team of you, me, and The Red Stranger (we have way too many Reds around here...), IIRC, all three of us can pencil, ink, and color. We might have our preferences, but if one of us fails to do our job, we have two other people who can do it until the third guy recovers or is replaced as appropriate.
That makes a lot more sense.

Still the group needs to be tested before we know if it's the method to take.

Uh, that's what I just said as well (sorry if I was being verbos or convoluted). xD

I agree with you en toto.
That's not what you said at all

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 05:07 PM

If we are considering this person to fall behind on their own they still would in the group. If the person can't carry their own weight in the group, Unless someone else is doing the same job, it causes the same amount of damage.

While it would still be bad for somebody to fall behind, I think the point is that we can cover each other if it should happen, whereas with no team, a holdup means no comic. For example, supposing a hypothetical team of you, me, and The Red Stranger (we have way too many Reds around here...), IIRC, all three of us can pencil, ink, and color. We might have our preferences, but if one of us fails to do our job, we have two other people who can do it until the third guy recovers or is replaced as appropriate.
That makes a lot more sense.
Still the group needs to be tested before we know if it's the method to take.

Uh, that's what I just said as well (sorry if I was being verbos or convoluted). xD
I agree with you en toto.
That's not what you said at all

2) This con can be margianlized through proper screening of the choosen individuals and some oversight. And like I already said you can have overlap and auxillary through guys like myself who have done all three.

;) I said it twice I believe.

Now are we gonna beat a dead horse or talk business.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 05:33 PM

1) Financial backing doesn't count.  Being paid to do something is not a collaboration.  

 

2) Unfair counter-argument. If we are considering this person to fall behind on their own they still would in the group.  If the person can't carry their own weight in the group, Unless someone else is doing the same job, it causes the same amount of damage.  

 

The answer to this: Cross Training; it's wot many businesses use as a training model. While everybody does what comes best, you also make it a prerequisite that he/she practices the other jobs, so if one drops out the others can take up the slack. In know this isn't a big business, but if FUS is to grow it might behoove us to adopt some of the model at some level.



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 07:19 PM

If we are considering this person to fall behind on their own they still would in the group. If the person can't carry their own weight in the group, Unless someone else is doing the same job, it causes the same amount of damage.

While it would still be bad for somebody to fall behind, I think the point is that we can cover each other if it should happen, whereas with no team, a holdup means no comic. For example, supposing a hypothetical team of you, me, and The Red Stranger (we have way too many Reds around here...), IIRC, all three of us can pencil, ink, and color. We might have our preferences, but if one of us fails to do our job, we have two other people who can do it until the third guy recovers or is replaced as appropriate.
That makes a lot more sense.
Still the group needs to be tested before we know if it's the method to take.
Uh, that's what I just said as well (sorry if I was being verbos or convoluted). xD
I agree with you en toto.
That's not what you said at all

2) This con can be margianlized through proper screening of the choosen individuals and some oversight. And like I already said you can have overlap and auxillary through guys like myself who have done all three.

;) I said it twice I believe.

Now are we gonna beat a dead horse or talk business.
You're right, priorities....

*Grabs baseball bat*


We still need a project to test the group. Without a test run all this horsebeatin' amounts to nada.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 08:16 PM

First we'd need a group to test. :P

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 09:54 PM

I wouldnt mind penciling 



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:03 PM

I recommend Blackwing pencils. They're the same kind Chuck Jones used.
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