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@  furrykef : (25 May 2020 - 09:38 AM)

I can handle it, but why do you want to delete your account?

@  Lito290 : (24 May 2020 - 09:02 PM)

How does one request the deletion of their account?

@  VHS : (21 May 2020 - 04:04 PM)

I gotta join that then

@  Shadow : (14 May 2020 - 01:17 PM)

Sure is. A lot more lively than here.

@  VHS : (02 May 2020 - 08:31 AM)

Oh shoot there's a Discord?

@  Nex : (25 April 2020 - 06:58 PM)

It's a disagreement between two people...n judging what goes on in there sometimes that's a very apt description xD

@  John Roberts : (25 April 2020 - 05:34 PM)

What's a Discord?

@  Nex : (25 April 2020 - 04:15 PM)

Activity is spread across forum, discord 'n the site chat room. There's life, it's just hiding under different rocks :D

@  RedAuthar : (25 April 2020 - 04:13 PM)

It's still slow. We ain't dead. Just close

@  VHS : (23 April 2020 - 11:25 AM)

Wait, I thought this place wasn't dead, it seemed active

@  VHS : (23 April 2020 - 11:20 AM)

I LIVE

@  wildfire : (22 April 2020 - 10:57 AM)

Ya know John, I wouldn't be surprised if it was me. At least I'm a bit more active these days

@  chief : (20 April 2020 - 05:24 PM)

Discod stays going pretty good

@  Nex : (20 April 2020 - 01:11 AM)

Is the Discord busy? Still trying t figure out where most of you monkeys hang out.

@  MauEvig : (19 April 2020 - 07:58 PM)

Well, I'll be chilling on the Discord. :)

@  John Roberts : (19 April 2020 - 12:32 PM)

It's just you, Wildfire. You're killing us mate!

@  wildfire : (19 April 2020 - 09:01 AM)

To be fair, there are more rapid forms of communication these days. The Discord server sees a far bit of attention. I remember the IRC too, but that's dead last I looked

@  MauEvig : (18 April 2020 - 08:10 PM)

A shame. And here I'm finally getting back into the spirit of everything Sonic. Well maybe we just need to liven things up. :)

@  furrykef : (18 April 2020 - 06:38 PM)

The forum's pretty dead at the best of times, really.

@  MauEvig : (18 April 2020 - 08:36 AM)

lol join the club @wildfire


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#1 Ishapar

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 05:46 PM

I just watched "Sonic and Sally" and something is bugging me.  When Sonic "rescues" the Sally bot, why did the bot's camera go offline?  The bot's microphone still functioned, but why did the camera die? 


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#2 RedAuthar

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 06:10 PM

Behind the scenes - Easy excuse so that Robotnik can't find Knothole.

 

Possible In universe answers - The Sally bot had to be a perfect replica of Sally.  Likely there wasn't the physical space or data for a high quality camera.  



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Posted 14 June 2016 - 06:20 PM

The camera was working until Snively's first attempt to roboticise Sally.  I guess something malfunctioned in the building, but how did it affect the Sally-bot?  Was the bot's power somehow tied to the Roboticsizer?


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#4 RedAuthar

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 06:21 PM

Like a Skype Video Feed Going out.  It likely just lost connection to Robotnik's servers.  



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Posted 14 June 2016 - 06:25 PM

Good Comeback!  :biggrin:


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#6 Ishapar

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 08:00 AM

So how does that work with Skype?  Is it a connection issue?


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#7 RedAuthar

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 12:29 PM

Skype is essentially a phone line for the computer. Just like a cell phone can lose connection with the towers/satellite, Skype can lose connection pending your internet connection. Occasionally due to bad connection, the Skype video feed may disconnect freezing the image but allowing the audio to continue. Usually the Audio will cut soon after but sometimes it reconnects.

#8 Ishapar

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 05:25 PM

So using Skype as an example, you would say that basically Sally's camera went offline but the audio was still connected.


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Posted 18 June 2016 - 10:36 PM

Yup.



#10 Ishapar

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Posted 19 June 2016 - 06:11 PM

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Fine


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Posted 16 January 2017 - 09:20 AM

Basically like a Replikant in a way



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Posted 10 April 2017 - 04:47 PM

I'll take a stab at this. I'll say part of the reason is that video has much higher bandwidth/throughput requirements for encoding and transmission than audio does. Take a look at the relative sizes of a 5 minute video file, compared to that of a 5 minute MP3. The video file is much bigger. Ever been watching a video on youtube or on a Skype call, and then a roommate or family member in the same house starts a big download, and your video quality starts looking like crap and lagging out as he hogs all the bandwidth? Similar issue.

 

When Snively first attempted the robotization process on Sally, the system overloaded and some equipment blew up, damaging the receiver system in Robotroplis that was tuned to replicant-Sally. Damaged, it no longer had enough bandwitth to successfully receive and decode the video stream from replicant-Sally. Since an audio stream takes far less bandwidth, that could still be received and decoded.

 

Another thought, was that perhaps the audio and video streams were separate systems entirely. Consider Robotnik's line after the system blew and Snivley said, "The video is gone, sir!": "The communication system still works." This is probably a good design anyway, since audio and video streams have different processing requirements, and each one could be optimized for it's particular task. A bonus is a degree of resiliency, as was observed in the episode; the failure of one system does not necessarily mean that the other fails as well. This seems to play well into the genre-savviness  that Robotnik exhibited in season 1.



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Posted 10 April 2017 - 07:55 PM

Another thought, was that perhaps the audio and video streams were separate systems entirely. Consider the line after the system blew and Snivley said, "The video is gone, sir!". "The communication system still works." This is probably a good design anyway, since audio and video streams have different processing requirements, and each one could be optimized for it's particular task. A bonus is a degree of resiliency, as was observed in the episode; the failure of one system does not necessarily mean that the other fails as well. This seems to play well into the genre-savviness  that Robotnik exhibited in season 1.

 

I think have something here. In a logical and surveillance sense, it would be wise to have the audio on one setting and the video on a different one because if one were to go down you still have the other and then use what you gather to infer further.  Having both on the same setting then having both go out then you just wasted time and resources that could fall into the Freedom Fighter hands. At least having one active you can monitor and access situations and be able to gather valuable data and intel. It's a smart plan, but the bot couldnt fully pick up everything of Sally's personality which allowed Tails to figure it out. There's still some flaws in that system that could be ironed out


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 09:37 AM

I like Koreth's explanation.  Makes sense!



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 11:12 AM

I'll take a stab at this. I'll say part of the reason is that video has much higher bandwidth/throughput requirements for encoding and transmission than audio does. Take a look at the relative sizes of a 5 minute video file, compared to that of a 5 minute MP3. The video file is much bigger. Ever been watching a video on youtube or on a Skype call, and then a roommate or family member in the same house starts a big download, and your video quality starts looking like crap and lagging out as he hogs all the bandwidth? Similar issue.

 

When Snively first attempted the robotization process on Sally, the system overloaded and some equipment blew up, damaging the receiver system in Robotroplis that was tuned to replicant-Sally. Damaged, it no longer had enough bandwitth to successfully receive and decode the video stream from replicant-Sally. Since an audio stream takes far less bandwidth, that could still be received and decoded.

 

Another thought, was that perhaps the audio and video streams were separate systems entirely. Consider Robotnik's line after the system blew and Snivley said, "The video is gone, sir!": "The communication system still works." This is probably a good design anyway, since audio and video streams have different processing requirements, and each one could be optimized for it's particular task. A bonus is a degree of resiliency, as was observed in the episode; the failure of one system does not necessarily mean that the other fails as well. This seems to play well into the genre-savviness  that Robotnik exhibited in season 1.

Both seem plausible; I like the separate systems explanation better.


 
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Posted 13 April 2017 - 06:45 AM

Nice one, Koreth.  Video and audio as two separate systems.


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