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@  nzoomed : (22 May 2019 - 05:02 PM)

@furrykef I cant see any thing wrong with her legs. Are you sure you are not looking at the photo of the reverse side of the cel?

@  furrykef : (22 May 2019 - 03:23 PM)

What's up with Bunnie's legs in that cel, though? Her thighs are colored wrong, which doesn't happen in that scene...

@  ShenFNWoo : (22 May 2019 - 08:48 AM)

In other words, it'd be up to you guys whether certain things are prohibited, because with me, almost nothing is sacred, as I believe we're all adults who have the tools to deal with people we dont' get along with.

@  ShenFNWoo : (22 May 2019 - 07:09 AM)

You can go by my rules or you can make your own, I don't really plan on doing any moderation unless someone floods the place (I would ban hackers, but ... well, they hack, lol)

@  ShenFNWoo : (22 May 2019 - 07:07 AM)

Okay, if you guys want, I can make the discord server and promote the appropriate people to admin and can tell them how to do whatever if they don't already know.

@  Shadow : (22 May 2019 - 01:26 AM)

Hot damn.

@  nzoomed : (21 May 2019 - 08:31 PM)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Cel-Adventures-of-Sonic-the-Hedgehog-Princess-Sally-Acorn-w-Painted-Background-/113756203026?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

@  nzoomed : (21 May 2019 - 08:31 PM)

someone scored this animation cel from the opening credits :)

@  Sunnyfruit : (21 May 2019 - 01:00 PM)

I'm fine with a Discord.

@  ShenFNWoo : (21 May 2019 - 06:59 AM)

Go ahead and make one then. It only takes a minute to make. Seems we have to experience it to believe it, so let's go.

@  Quickster : (21 May 2019 - 12:09 AM)

I agree with Shadow; we could use a Discord channel.

@  Wulfsbane : (20 May 2019 - 09:07 PM)

Most Social media is a mistake.

@  furrykef : (20 May 2019 - 08:50 PM)

Twitter is ideal for people with very short attention spans. People with names similar to Ronald Dump.

@  Shadow : (20 May 2019 - 03:52 PM)

I only use twitter to look at nsfw art that got exiled off tumblr.

@  Sunnyfruit : (20 May 2019 - 01:42 PM)

Notification addiction IMHO

@  Ishapar : (20 May 2019 - 01:27 PM)

Never understood the thrill of Twitter. Why do people use it so much when it is basically just a bunch of little "tweets"?

@  Sunnyfruit : (20 May 2019 - 01:21 PM)

Anyway nothing's worse than Twitter.

@  Sunnyfruit : (20 May 2019 - 01:20 PM)

But as an archiving medium you can't do better. I'm happy to have read both the notes Hurst left and the elaborate posts made in the heat of the moment, something that couldn't have happened on a simple static website+discord.

@  Sunnyfruit : (20 May 2019 - 01:19 PM)

I prefer forums but they aren't made for small talk. Given that not much happens about SatAM they aren't the best way to communicate

@  Shadow : (20 May 2019 - 01:12 PM)

Skype completely shat on everything good MSN messenger had going for it. I miss the custom smilies and nudge functions, plus the avatars that were bigger than a thumb print on screen were nice...


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#21 Clocktopus

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 01:52 PM

 

 

Also remember the Weaponization was originally intended to explain her redesign later.  

 

 

How's that?


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#22 LogiTeeka

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 06:28 PM

How's that?

 

Part of the reason for Sally's roboticization was to find a convenient way to update her design to her reboot appearance. But when the reboot itself happened, that idea never came to pass - she just always had it for convenience sake.

 

This isn't the only time in the comics a convoluted contrivance was used to explain why a character looked different. Sonic went through one to explain his transition from SatAM Sonic to his modern look while Amy got probably one of the worst treatments.



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 03:10 PM

I'm a bit confused.  So, she was supposed to get an update, and then didn't, then they rebooted it, and she did? I remember Sonic's transition, and that was REALLY lame.  Robotnik's was also a bit silly (as described to me, anyway).


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 06:11 PM

I'm a bit confused.  So, she was supposed to get an update, and then didn't, then they rebooted it, and she did?

All the redesigns for the characters in the reboot were originally going to be redesigns before the reboot.  How Sally would get hers was her derobotization.  Bunnies was in progress but we didn't get to find out.  Antoine was completely bandaged up so....maybe?

 

Long story short, the Freedom Fighters were going to get updated to match the more SEGA style the other characters have, and each one was going to get a reason behind it.  But then the reboot happened and in the new universe, they just always looked that way.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



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Posted 22 August 2017 - 02:59 AM

Here's what Ian said about the memory thing.

 

And I sympathize with that whole-heartedly - believe me. But this is how it has to be.

Case in point: all of Sally's growth revolving around her dealing (or not dealing) with her father, with regaining her mother, discovering she had a brother and all that those plotlines entailed. I am now in a position where I can't reference:
- Alicia
- Elias
- anything Max did during his reign

That's not just something to can write around. Folks are getting riled that I'm using general nouns for the planet instead of saying "Mobius." Imagine how hollow it would sound if Sally were fighting for the "loved ones she's lost." Which loved ones? Can't say. How were the lost? Can't say. How were they important to her? Can't say. And it's not something you can lampshade, because losing most of her family is going to affect her as a character.

Maybe some folks would've been alright with dancing around the issue in vague terms. Maybe they'd be okay with Sonic moving on from his erased parents, or Knuckles just rolling with the genocide of his people (neither of which could be specifically referenced or talked about). But not me. I think that's a disservice to the story, to the characters, and to the fans. I'm not going to lie to you for years with a false promise of a return to the old canon. I was told to make them remember during "Countdown to Chaos," and now I'm making it clear the new status quo is sticking so you all aren't left wondering.

I have no doubt folks will be saying "they should've done it this way!" from now until the end of time. And I completely understand them being disappointed and a bit hurt that we had to change things so abruptly. But please believe me when I say there were many, many long, heated discussions on how to best proceed. This was not something we did lightly, and a lot of thought and effort has been put into this.

It's not the ArchieSonic of old - but I hope the veteran fans can still feel a little comfortable with the SatAM crew still together, still doing the Freedom Fighter thing.

 

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 03:46 PM

Yeah but it's what happened afterwards with the characters a lot of people became upset.

 

I felt bad for Ian as he did everything he could to continue on with the comic and keep some of the old stuff in, but he was definitely handcuffed.


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#27 Clocktopus

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 04:20 PM

was it bad or was it just hamstrung from the limitations?


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 04:55 PM

was it bad or was it just hamstrung from the limitations?

 

Personally, I think it's both.

 

It was bad because Ian is an okay writer at best and his ideas can be good but arent executed right but the limitations set by the Penders lawsuit didnt help him either.


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 06:37 PM

I always found it frustrating how SatAM Robotnik had to be retconned out of existance. He could have easilly existed as a parallel universe Eggman such as Nega, but SEGA's hardcore prejudice towards american creations made his brief time in the comics a void of history. Then theirs the further complications of Penders writing some of Robotnik's backstory which he swiped the ideas from Ben Hurst further complicating matters. The team up they had in issue 108 was disgraceful, and was a missed opportunity for what could have been a really fun collaboration of the two, much how Eggman and Dr Wily got along well.



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Posted 26 August 2017 - 06:21 PM

I always found it frustrating how SatAM Robotnik had to be retconned out of existance. He could have easilly existed as a parallel universe Eggman such as Nega, but SEGA's hardcore prejudice towards american creations made his brief time in the comics a void of history. Then theirs the further complications of Penders writing some of Robotnik's backstory which he swiped the ideas from Ben Hurst further complicating matters. The team up they had in issue 108 was disgraceful, and was a missed opportunity for what could have been a really fun collaboration of the two, much how Eggman and Dr Wily got along well.

 

Given that the team at Archie thought the series was going to get dropped once it had reached #50 (which was standard practice at the time), Penders was told to wrap up the series however he could. His original plans were to kill Sally off as well as Robotnik, but when SEGA renewed their license he had to haphazardly bring those characters back - Sally was revealed to be in a coma all along while Robotnik was promised to return in the next milestone issue.

 

Oddly enough, Julian's return in #108 wasn't going to be his final appearance. Originally, the mysterious "Anonymous" character was planned to be the SatAM Robotnik having returned to take back his throne from Eggman. But when Ian Flynn was brought aboard, he couldn't use that idea since it belonged to another writer, so he revealed "Anonymous" to be A.D.A.M. instead.



#31 furrykef

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 09:45 PM

"he couldn't use that idea since it belonged to another writer"

The comics industry is so dumb at times.

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 10:34 PM

I wouldnt say dumb, just convoluted


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:37 PM

I thought the excuse was that the readers would be too ignorant to know why their is two Robotniks existing at the same time.



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Posted 27 August 2017 - 01:23 PM

And it's probably true they were. No doubt most of the comics' audience by that point was kids who weren't around for the comics with the original Robotnik.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 02:22 PM

It's plausible.

 

It would have been, what, a four-five year span between the two if they went as planned? (From #50 to #108)


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 09:28 AM

Yeah.  The problem literally just "goes away."  Sorry.   xD

From what I heard, Neon Genesis Evangelion had an anticlimactic ending that could be compared to the Mecha Sally Arc.



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 04:28 PM

And it's probably true they were. No doubt most of the comics' audience by that point was kids who weren't around for the comics with the original Robotnik.

Yet nobody gets tripped up over Eggman Nega.




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