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@  Ishapar : (24 May 2019 - 04:52 PM)

Chief, is there anyway to help out besides the financial aspects?

@  Shadow : (24 May 2019 - 12:11 PM)

Well if their comes a point of a hiatus, I'd be glad to offer my services.

@  chief : (24 May 2019 - 10:27 AM)

Shadow- oh yeah. We are getting new pages. Just holding off till we have a good backlog. Riggobos currently innking a page right now before sending it off to Enigma for colours.

@  Wulfsbane : (24 May 2019 - 07:18 AM)

Sonic film delayed by 3 months

@  Shadow : (23 May 2019 - 09:43 PM)

Is their enough artists to keep the comic going?

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 08:02 PM)

As for that cell...wow 2 thousand

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 07:27 PM)

As for discord...Yeah I'm looking into doing one. I mean I already use one for the comic staff and others. So looking into creating a FUS one

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 07:26 PM)

So my goal there is to be fully transparent

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 07:25 PM)

Its a big task...Yeah. And honestly...Well I sure as hell hope we pull it off. Just 1 episode would be great.

 

Our plan is to make all the money raised totally transparent. As the patreons will see how much we have and wen we have to spend it on something like painted backgrounds etc we will tell them who it is going to and how much etc. I hate raising money..the rest of the team just sorta said we kinda have to for some of the artists we need.

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 07:23 PM)

Also chatted with people in sega...on the corporate front which gets you no where cause of Sega of America and legal with Sega of Japan...but on a more personal talk with employees etc

@  chief : (23 May 2019 - 07:22 PM)

The comic is actually starting to move along good. The issue with the comic was staffing. Only 2 artists.

 

The animated bit....Okay I was totally unsure years back when I was first approached to try it...And I was right to be that. This time I was half approached half just chatting with people again and started to figure out what went wrong..Why we lost our sega contacts (they restructured...) and so on.

 

also this time we...well refused to go public till now. Its been a work in progress since October/November. Weve got proper scripts, storyboard artist working on all that. we contacted people to help out....a lot...and some said they would (and are). Even chatted with DHX (the studio that owns s1 and s2 plus all writes)

@  nzoomed : (23 May 2019 - 05:41 PM)

count me in

@  Ishapar : (23 May 2019 - 05:38 PM)

Crazy...I didn't think you guys would do it. It was hard enough to keep the Sea3on comic alive: you guys sure you're up for this?

@  nzoomed : (23 May 2019 - 05:19 PM)

wow an animated series at last? this is awesome. i hope we get similar animation to the original series. Getting the voices right will be hard.

@  Shadow : (23 May 2019 - 01:41 PM)

Right here, bud https://www.patreon.com/sea3on/posts

@  Ishapar : (23 May 2019 - 12:27 PM)

I know I haven't been around for awhile, but what did I miss? You guys started a patreon for Season 3?

@  ShenFNWoo : (23 May 2019 - 06:42 AM)

Don't worry, I gotcha fam 8-)

@  ShenFNWoo : (23 May 2019 - 06:42 AM)

Or is what happened the reason why it's usually dead around here? Zoom view past the incoming thunderstorm to make out microscopic details on the surface of the moon, when there's plenty of opportunity to notice both?

@  ShenFNWoo : (23 May 2019 - 06:39 AM)

@Kef, I'm reading context clues. That's how I know you're not interested. I can feel the low key disrespect from orbit

 

https://youtu.be/5EVCTpWTwEU?t=225

@  nzoomed : (23 May 2019 - 02:17 AM)

@ furrykef Good pointing that out on the cel, i see what you mean after looking at the intro. Its very possible this was an early concept cel and was scrapped. Possible also that they had decided to give her more prominent robotic legs early in the characters design perhaps?


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#1 sonicroc

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Posted 24 January 2017 - 05:26 PM

Well folks, this is it.  The Sonic comic is being cancelled. 
 
I know, Archie claims they're just not taking subscriptions temporarily, but a publisher as desperate as Archie would want subscriptions now, even if the comic were delayed for five months.  (bwrosas pointed out that the Dark Circle Comics also have no subscription options, but this has been true for some time now.)
 
So if it is being cancelled, whose decision?  Not Archie's.  When they stopped doing Mega Man and Sonic Boom, they gracefully ended the comics.  But as you can see from the (late) comic previews, they've been going full steam ahead. 
 
The decision, therefore, was almost certainly Sega's.  The license contract could be expiring, and Sega's not feeling it.  Probably because they got ticked off at Archie during the infamous lawsuit. 
 
But all is not lost...  Sega is currently trying quite hard to regain the enthusiasm of the fanbase.  The comics may not be huge in Sega's agenda, but they're surely aware that the comic is quite successful, and that ending it would make many people sad. 
 
The logical solution would be (drum roll) switching the comic to another publisher. 
 
The best candidate would seemingly be IDW Publishing.  To quote SEGAbits
 
"[A]s the contract for the license is likely up for renewal, SEGA has finally decided to not continue with Archie. Thus, the cancellation that we are seeing play out. Does this mean that Sonic comics are no more? Maybe, or it is more likely that SEGA will go with a publisher that treats licensed comics with much more care. I can easily see Sonic the Hedgehog comics happening with a publisher like Boom! Studios or IDW. Interestingly, Sonic comics writer Ian Flynn also does work for IDW with their Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comics. Should Sonic find a home at IDW, it would be relatively easy to reassemble the team."
 
Point is, this would be awesome, but there is no guarantee.  So what are you all waiting for?!  :o
 
I would urge everyone to please write to IDW!  Tell them the Sonic comic is [almost certainly] being cancelled, and that you'd like them to pick up the license!  And please tell everyone else! 
 
Because,
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Well OK, the stakes aren't quite that high...  Even if the comic is cancelled forever, I think Archie Sonic Online would simply become the "unofficial official" Sonic comic, akin to Sonic the Comic Online, and that would be fine.  (Plus, we've got Sea3on!)  But I really love the current team of writers and artists for the official comic, and it would be cool if they could keep at it.



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Posted 24 January 2017 - 05:42 PM

It's not going to be cancelled, hold your horses. The FCBD special was cancelled in favor of Archie pooling their resources to market their Riverdale series first. If Sega wishes to take the comic elsewhere they will approach IDW, not the other way around. I am going to chalk up the removed subscription debacle to Archie being run like shit and them forgetting to put it up.



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Posted 24 January 2017 - 06:08 PM

Even if the series did move to IDW, it's very unlikely it would be in the same continuity... meaning another reboot. And in that case they'd probably prefer to stick with the Sega cast (which is quite large enough) and whatever characters they come up with themselves rather than keep the SatAM cast around.

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Posted 24 January 2017 - 07:10 PM

It's not going to be cancelled, hold your horses. The FCBD special was cancelled in favor of Archie pooling their resources to market their Riverdale series first. If Sega wishes to take the comic elsewhere they will approach IDW, not the other way around. I am going to chalk up the removed subscription debacle to Archie being run like shit and them forgetting to put it up.

 

They're not even accepting subscriptions over the phone, and it's been an entire week since people started barraging them with questions.  This isn't them neglecting to update the site.   (But hey, I would love to be proven wrong.) 

 

The point of writing in to IDW would be to make them ever-so-slightly more likely to license the comic, whichever company approaches the other one.  When a company decides to publish a magazine, they want to know how well it will sell and all that.  Emailing them won't move any mountains, but hey, it can't hurt. 

 

Even if the series did move to IDW, it's very unlikely it would be in the same continuity... meaning another reboot. And in that case they'd probably prefer to stick with the Sega cast (which is quite large enough) and whatever characters they come up with themselves rather than keep the SatAM cast around.

 

I highly doubt that.  All the content of the new continuity is copyright Sega.  If IDW were to license the comic, they'd obviously want to draw in the crowd that reads the current comic.  Plus, the reboot redesigns, etc., is all very sleek and marketable to new young audiences. It would make no sense for them to reboot it again. 



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Posted 24 January 2017 - 07:42 PM

Oh.... hey.... 

 

I just realized that, while the first half of the comics preview is a month old, the second half is from... yesterday: 

 

http://archiecomics....il2017solicits/

 

And if they're revealing new issues as late as yesterday...  there's no way they're cancelling the comic then... right?.... 

 

--- w ---

 

I'm feeling some strange mix of embarrassment and great, blissful relief...   There was something so incredibly sad about seeing those previews and "knowing" that they would never be published... 

 

I should probably edit my post now, so IDW doesn't get spammed on my behalf... 

 

 

EDIT:  But yeah, this feels really weird.  Even though I only got around to posting about it today, I've spent the last 4 days or so believing that the Sonic comics were being cancelled..  It's going to take awhile for this to register... 

 

I suppose it shows something about me that this would be a major deal, but I guess the same goes for most of you, lol. 



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Posted 24 January 2017 - 08:21 PM

Should I just lock this or try turning it into a way for us/fans to talk about the uncertain future of the comic?


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

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Posted 24 January 2017 - 09:45 PM

Might as well keep it, if you ask me.

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 12:35 PM

Hrm hrm hrm...  So I removed the strike-through from my first post, because I no longer think I was wrong.  Not only has it now been 2.5 weeks since the subscriptions disappeared, but now I finally have a reasonable explanation as to what's really going on, which for whatever reason never occurred to me before. 

 

So yeah, instead of me blabbing some more, lol, I'll just let you "watch" this video.  But yeah, this scenario suites me much better than the whole "the plug gets pulled without warning" one. 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=bWt0GaPhdqg



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Posted 11 March 2017 - 11:03 AM

Perhaps the reason Archie Sonic is being suspended is because Archie has gotten rights to make a Mario comic, but they're going to surprise us with it. Makes total sense, right?

 

Plus, they can't discontinue the comic if Sonic Mega Drive: Overdrive is coming out March 29.


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 06:50 PM

Thing is, issue 291 still has a planned release even though the date keeps getting pushed back. It might just be on hold. Maybe they'll alternate between Mega Man and Sonic? Who knows.
I hope they tell us something about it soon

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 10:32 PM

Thing is, issue 291 still has a planned release even though the date keeps getting pushed back. It might just be on hold. Maybe they'll alternate between Mega Man and Sonic? Who knows.
I hope they tell us something about it soon

 

I hope so, too. I, for one, doubt that Mega Man will return, even though they said it was the end "for now." Perhaps they will give us a reasonable explanation for the delay in the future.


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Posted 29 March 2017 - 04:47 PM

I didn't take the cancellation seriously until I found out that Sonic Mega Drive: Overdrive was not released. Further yet, it was listed as cancelled.
 
Now I, for one, don't believe it was really cancelled. I think it will be released at a later time.
 
I found an article that should have some insight on this situation: https://www.sonicsta...verdrive-worry/


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Posted 29 March 2017 - 06:56 PM

Part of me thinks it's Archie that's trying to drop the comic, not Sega. I mean, why would Sega cancel the heavily promoted Mega Drive series?

 

My thought process: Archie isn’t doing well financially. They took a massive gamble with Riverdale. Even with it be rewarded a 2nd season, it’s not getting the revenue Archie was expecting. I think Archie wants to drop the series as a cost saving move but Sega doesn’t want to drop the comic. I think Archie’s stalling for time to either make Sega take the comic off the table or to sure up funds for operating costs to publish more comics.

 

I think the cards are stacked in Sega's favor, they could have left Archie during the last delay too but they are showing faith in their long time publishing partner. They also could have left during/after the Penders lawsuit, after Worlds Unite or even during/after Fulop's now recently dropped lawsuit. Yet they haven't...


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 08:28 AM

So if SEGA is the one intent on keeping the comics afloat, is it possible for them to simply switch to another publisher if Archie refuses? They might even allow the continuity to continue if they care about it that much.

 

But since this is only speculation, this should be taken with a great amount of salt.



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 07:12 PM

So if SEGA is the one intent on keeping the comics afloat, is it possible for them to simply switch to another publisher if Archie refuses? They might even allow the continuity to continue if they care about it that much.

 

But since this is only speculation, this should be taken with a great amount of salt.

 

Could they switch? Maybe?? I dont know the specifics of the contract between Sega and Archie. That's probably the hurdle.

 

I think the continuity would be reset.... again... if they switch publishers but characters may stay, especially if Ian is writing


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. -Colossians 3:13


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 01:55 AM

I think the continuity would be reset.... again... if they switch publishers but characters may stay, especially if Ian is writing

 

If SEGA is truly concerned about the comic's wellbeing, I think yet another reboot would prove to be pretty unpopular with the readers.



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Posted 01 April 2017 - 07:11 AM

I think the continuity would be reset.... again... if they switch publishers but characters may stay, especially if Ian is writing


If SEGA is truly concerned about the comic's wellbeing, I think yet another reboot would prove to be pretty unpopular with the readers.
It would be a soft reboot. They wouldn't hit the reset button but they'd definitely have to start a new volume.

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 01:10 PM

I wouldn't mind a reboot personally. But more like what Red said and do a soft reboot.

Ive finally been slowly reading some of the comics..and they aren't too bad. Not too great but a few have been.

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 04:03 PM

 

 

I think the continuity would be reset.... again... if they switch publishers but characters may stay, especially if Ian is writing


If SEGA is truly concerned about the comic's wellbeing, I think yet another reboot would prove to be pretty unpopular with the readers.
It would be a soft reboot. They wouldn't hit the reset button but they'd definitely have to start a new volume.

 

 

That's what they said last time. Then it kinda turned into a hard one later on


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. -Colossians 3:13


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 04:46 PM

I think the reason why Archie is being hush hush is because they are having financial troubles and probably are gambling on Riverdale to be a major success. They may not have the budget to continue the Sonic comics right now but don't want to cancel it, therefore are negotiating with Sega terms to pick it back up after a certain date.




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