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I'm not dead.

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I'm never dead. You all are, usually.

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Ah, some activity at last

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Who's still alive in here, dagnabbit?

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http://www.sonicsatam.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8730

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Does anyone n here do animation? If anyone would like to animate characters as a .png file sequence I could then drop them into / replace your characters into this rally cartoon, same goes for background art if anyone wants to help, you would get a name credit at the end.

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But it would still make for really easy, albeit shitty joke material to effortlessly put in since orange man bad jokes are all the rage.

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Rather get the answer from the source rather than someone's interpretation of it.

 

Though I would argue that getting political and attacking trump, even if just for a mindless laugh at his personality with no political intention at all would still come off that way and would be one of the dumbest things the franchise could do.

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@Shenfoo, Sunny summed it up. A version of Eggman who would make obvious nods and winks to the demeanor of things he is famous for.

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I'll just... leave this here: https://twitter.com/...305773330452480

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Wow, you're really not going to tell me, Shadow

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Not nearly as great as Infinity War but makes for a good two parter back to back.

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Saw Endgame. Seriously, if you havent sen it yet, do so

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he meant the movie could have had a donald trump-like figure to get a free hit on, fortunately it doesn't (wasn't even a probability for such a huge IP anyway)

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As a donald trump leader? What do you mean?


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Ken Penders Archie Lawsuit

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#41 RedAuthar

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:24 PM

Technically if Archie had paid him the royalties none of this would have happened. Should they have, no, but still it takes two to fight.

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:30 PM

I was gonna stay out of this...

 

It's Archie's fault. Penders was the victim in this.


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:36 PM

It really is Archie's fault. Never liked that kid or his comics. :/
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Posted 16 May 2014 - 08:56 PM

Technically if Archie had paid him the royalties none of this would have happened. Should they have, no, but still it takes two to fight.

But did they actually owe him that money?


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Posted 16 May 2014 - 08:59 PM

 

Technically if Archie had paid him the royalties none of this would have happened. Should they have, no, but still it takes two to fight.

But did they actually owe him that money?

 

 

Yes because since Penders never signed a contract (because he was a freelance writer) any characters he created were technically his.


The Scribes, if anyone wants to join a growing community. Ask me if you want to know more.

 

“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. -Colossians 3:13


#46 LogiTeeka

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 09:01 PM

Looking back at the case, I'd say both sides are guilty.

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 09:07 PM

Looking back at the case, I'd say both sides are guilty.

 

Pretty much. There really is no reason to blame anyone or keep continuing a witch-hunt over this. Both sides done goofed.


The Scribes, if anyone wants to join a growing community. Ask me if you want to know more.

 

“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. -Colossians 3:13


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Posted 16 May 2014 - 09:38 PM

I agree that both nether Penders or Archie are innocent in this matter, though I do wonder why the characters aren't being used.

 

One thing I heard was that Penders' Characters can be used as long as the future of the comic matches Mobius 25 Years Later, which I hope is not the case.

 

If not that, then my only explanation is that the higher ups at Archie are sore after the lawsuit and forbid the team from ever using Penders' Stuff again, which I'm more inclined to believe. Yes that is petty, but considering how things are run over there I wouldn't be surprised.


Seriously, HOW THE HELL did nobody know that Robotnik was evil!? I mean just look at those red, glowing, hellish eyes, oh yeah I can completely trust that guy with my life! *sarcasm*

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 10:56 PM

 

Technically if Archie had paid him the royalties none of this would have happened. Should they have, no, but still it takes two to fight.

But did they actually owe him that money?

 

Nope.  He created the characters for their comic under their name.  He technically doesn't have the rights to those characters.  

 

However the problem would have been easily solved if they sent money his way.

 

 

 

 

Technically if Archie had paid him the royalties none of this would have happened. Should they have, no, but still it takes two to fight.

But did they actually owe him that money?

 

 

Yes because since Penders never signed a contract (because he was a freelance writer) any characters he created were technically his.

 

Penders never signed any of his scripts or works either.  Archie has more claim to these characters than he does. 



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Posted 22 May 2014 - 05:18 PM

I'm having difficulty finding information on if, as a result of the lawsuit, if Archie is forbidden from re-releasing certain older issues now (Like the Knuckles miniseries). Does anyone know or can guide me to where I could find out?



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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:05 PM

Archie is still releasing the collections, but they have a few regulations to fallow: they have to acknowledge the original writers of the issues and they can't use certain characters created by said writers in any new artwork for the collections.

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 04:19 PM

Archie is still releasing the collections, but they have a few regulations to fallow: they have to acknowledge the original writers of the issues and they can't use certain characters created by said writers in any new artwork for the collections.

Thank you.



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Posted 23 May 2014 - 04:38 PM

Define "acknowledge". Surely they were already crediting the writer for each story?

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 04:54 PM

Acknowledgement, as in "displaying the names of those behind it rather than just advertising it as another Archie product".



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Posted 23 May 2014 - 09:22 PM

How is that different from what they were already doing? I know the original issues always credited everyone involved. Surely they weren't removing the credits in the reprints, right?

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 04:59 AM

Like the autistic bitch he is, Ken is butthurt over the Sonic movie.

 

 

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 06:04 AM

He does have one point. The comics arent gonna be used for source material


The Scribes, if anyone wants to join a growing community. Ask me if you want to know more.

 

“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. -Colossians 3:13


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 08:34 AM

The comics were never going to be used. Any Sonic movie made was always going to follow the game canon(for better or worst).



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 09:16 AM

Wow Penders, just wow. 



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 09:17 AM

The comics were never going to be used. Any Sonic movie made was always going to follow the game canon(for better or worst).

 

I know that but still


The Scribes, if anyone wants to join a growing community. Ask me if you want to know more.

 

“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. -Colossians 3:13



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