Okay, then what would the proper definition be for those sorts of individuals? It seems like the movement (or whatever it is) would be more approachable if they try distinguishing the different types of people more so that they won’t be associating the innocent supporters’ names with a bunch of people that actually mean to do more harm than good. As someone who tries staying relatively neutral because I can’t fully agree with either side, it’s hard to distinguish fact from fiction when both sides are constantly trying to tear each other a new one.
There's a ton of problems with this paragraph too. One, the idea that being part of the group identity that is loosely defined can be used to determine what kind of person you are is the height of folly, madness and laziness. The internet proves time and time again that just because one is in a group, they don't all share the exact same opinions on every issue, or even have the same morals when thinking about how to achieve what they want done. At this point, it's only fair to treat people as individuals and use only the clearly defined traits (not stereotypes) to refer to the entire lot.
Also let me tell you, I feel like both Ethan Van Sciver, and Diversity and Comics (apparently the "forefathers" of comicsgate) are idiots. Not because of anything they represent, but I just don't like them. D&C makes 20 minute videos babbling on and on about bullshit no one gives a shit about when he could've made his point ages ago, and refuses to stop, so I unsubscribed, and same goes with Ethan Van Sciver. Dude sounds like he's got a cheeseburger stuck in his mouth at all times, and thinks his audience is too stupid to read internet articles by themselves, instead choosing to record his tablet and play read along using his pen to pinpoint every word he reads. They can both kiss my ass.
Yes, there are a lot of right wingers and free speech assholes within comicsgate. That's more of the end result of what the comics pros did to get those types of people to gather together in the first place. Had they not ostracized right wingers and trump supporters, getting on their twitter and saying things that the comic book company wouldn't allow, or SHOUlDN'T allow because it hurts their image to alienate their audience, they wouldn't have pushed those people towards that group, and you'd have less of those types to deal with (*see sidenote).
And there's already a term made for people who go around screwing with people over the internet for no good reason - "trolls". Trolls are everywhere. They're the good guys, they're the bad guys, they're the in between.
(Sidenote: I don't believe a company should be held responsible for what it's employees say, because at the end of the day, everyone's their own individual. I beleive people take it out on the company in this case because the people involved are directly attacking their customers, not just saying "this is my opinion, I'm not vilifying anyone".)
Punching Hitler and having innocent mutants be unreasonably discriminated against might be commonly accepted tropes in comics nowadays (for the most part), but back when they were first published they basically were direct attacks at people who were of those sorts of disposition. The US had a number of Nazi sympathizers before the country was forced to enter the war and there were a lot of people who were adamantly opposed to the equal rights movement, yet that didn’t stop the creatives from creating heroes that expressed their authors’ controversial beliefs at the time. It doesn’t seem like much has really changed in that regard; it’s just that time has passed since those earlier issues and most people have since grown more accustomed to those beliefs that they lost their initial controversy.
Yes, the issue here isn't actually something as clearly black and white as pointing out wrongdoers and calling them that. Racism is bad period. Nazi's were bad period. Under no definition could you even mistakenly think otherwise. The issue here is that the current pollitical climate is becoming way too soft and are falsely flagging anyone with a dissenting opinion as an aggressor who must be silenced, deplatformed, and ruined financially. It's getting out of control and the mainstream media is trying to force everyone down a homogenized path of white guilt, forced diversity and political correctness. No matter how you look at it, the badguys that everyone are pointing out as being bad, are cultivated and facilitated BY THESE SO CALLED GOOD GUYS. "You" are manufacturing your own outrage by treating people who are fighting back as enemies. And THIS is why Donald Trump is president. Not because some hateful mob rose out of the 4th dimension space between spaces, not because hidden racists showed up from out of nowhere, etc - seriously, a great deal of people who voted for Trump previously voted for Obama, think about that.
I get character appeal, but when something of beauty becomes so repetitive it kinda looses its appeal. Pretty soon, the character design isn’t really beautiful anymore - it’s just standard and oftentimes gratuitous. Plus, I do agree that it can generate unfortunate implications for impressionable minds, leading many people to think that they themselves can’t be attractive in their own unique way. I mean, does She-Ra’s new design really warrant the criticism of being slightly different? Does her overall appeal as a character really depend on how much of her body is shown?
The dispute I mentioned was about the divided comic book industry.
I agree that different body types should be embraced. If you go to my deviantart gallery or my furaffinity gallery, albeit a more adult rated content, you'll see that I put different kinds in there together (even though I lean more towards the fit kinds).
And yes, Netflix She Ra is getting a bit of undeserved hate. I plan on trashing the series myself, as I'm watching it with friends in our discord server, but I noticed right off the bat that these guys were picking apart at every single thing, rather than JUST the funny, awkward moments. Again though, it's more that they took an existing premise and fuxxed it up, so I can understand that. I'm only on episode 3, and besides a few things (like whimpy white boy on the horde side being the weakest on the team as to send a statement) I'm not seeing why others don't notice they're being a bit unfair to it. My problems are simple - the artstyle is weak, the design choices are pathetic, the dialogue is horrendous, and the insertion of identity politics is 100% unnecessary. I think so far, it's pretty watchable. Considering the show is (or should be) aimed directly at weeb girls, I'm not finding anything too offputting in that regard, but it's making ME roll my eyes to the point where I can see my own brain.
The dispute I mentioned was about the divided comic book industry.
That just takes me back to my original statement earlier. Comic pros are using the fact that "normies", that is, people who either don't:
- read comic books normally
- question those in places of authority and call them out on their bullshit
- bother to do any research
- follow their hobbies intently
- aren't adept at finding out the truth of the matter and are using them to combat their 'harassers' by labeling them the enemy. Think of it like this: If the comic book pros were to get their way, they dominate the industry, even if breifly, before their outrage machine runs dry and they either cannibalize the userbase or the userbase gets bored and runs off to their next fleeting point of contention. If comicsgaters get what they want, the comic book companies will be forced to respect their users and continuously put out thoughtful, quality material. The freedom to express oneself means that people will eventually become annoyed with eachother, which is why the comic pro's side of the argument is laughably unstable.