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@  furrykef : (25 May 2020 - 09:38 AM)

I can handle it, but why do you want to delete your account?

@  Lito290 : (24 May 2020 - 09:02 PM)

How does one request the deletion of their account?

@  VHS : (21 May 2020 - 04:04 PM)

I gotta join that then

@  Shadow : (14 May 2020 - 01:17 PM)

Sure is. A lot more lively than here.

@  VHS : (02 May 2020 - 08:31 AM)

Oh shoot there's a Discord?

@  Nex : (25 April 2020 - 06:58 PM)

It's a disagreement between two people...n judging what goes on in there sometimes that's a very apt description xD

@  John Roberts : (25 April 2020 - 05:34 PM)

What's a Discord?

@  Nex : (25 April 2020 - 04:15 PM)

Activity is spread across forum, discord 'n the site chat room. There's life, it's just hiding under different rocks :D

@  RedAuthar : (25 April 2020 - 04:13 PM)

It's still slow. We ain't dead. Just close

@  VHS : (23 April 2020 - 11:25 AM)

Wait, I thought this place wasn't dead, it seemed active

@  VHS : (23 April 2020 - 11:20 AM)

I LIVE

@  wildfire : (22 April 2020 - 10:57 AM)

Ya know John, I wouldn't be surprised if it was me. At least I'm a bit more active these days

@  chief : (20 April 2020 - 05:24 PM)

Discod stays going pretty good

@  Nex : (20 April 2020 - 01:11 AM)

Is the Discord busy? Still trying t figure out where most of you monkeys hang out.

@  MauEvig : (19 April 2020 - 07:58 PM)

Well, I'll be chilling on the Discord. :)

@  John Roberts : (19 April 2020 - 12:32 PM)

It's just you, Wildfire. You're killing us mate!

@  wildfire : (19 April 2020 - 09:01 AM)

To be fair, there are more rapid forms of communication these days. The Discord server sees a far bit of attention. I remember the IRC too, but that's dead last I looked

@  MauEvig : (18 April 2020 - 08:10 PM)

A shame. And here I'm finally getting back into the spirit of everything Sonic. Well maybe we just need to liven things up. :)

@  furrykef : (18 April 2020 - 06:38 PM)

The forum's pretty dead at the best of times, really.

@  MauEvig : (18 April 2020 - 08:36 AM)

lol join the club @wildfire


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#1 Clocktopus

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:21 PM

Mother of god, I randomly learned today about this arc in the comics long after I had stopped reading and I've been touched.  Seeing my favorite of the supporting cast enslaved was pretty striking for me.  Then when she delivers the "Where were you when the brains were handed out?" line I was absolutely reduced back to my fearful little childhood with SatAM's Sonic's Nightmare episode.  I'm currently binging it refusing to stop until she's saved. 

The team really knew how to pull heartstrings for me, even if SEGA forcing the canon games stuff in there cheapens it a bit...


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 09:21 PM

Uh...non-spoiler warning...be warned that it's a long arc with a bit less than satisfactory ending.  



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 06:25 AM

Yeah, was a lot longer than I expected with a lot of other stories going on.  Up to 247 now.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:08 PM

less than satisfactory ending.  

ugh...seriously? That's it? ><


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:12 PM

Yeah.  The problem literally just "goes away."  Sorry.  xD



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 12:00 AM

 

less than satisfactory ending.  

 

ugh...seriously? That's it? ><

 

Yup. Though you can't blame the head writer for it since it was beyond his control.

 

Complications from the lawsuit with the former writer, Ken Penders, forced Archie Comics to drop all his contributions from the series - which was basically its entirety. Since Archie no longer owns them and SEGA doesn't want anything to do with Penders (due to another lawsuit he was involved with), they decided to completely scrap the old continuity in favor of a reboot instead.

 

Unfortunately, the impact of Penders laying claim of his old creations seems to have brought an end to the Archie licensed series in general. It's anyone's guess if the new publisher will resume the comic from where it last left off.



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 04:49 AM

 

 

less than satisfactory ending.  

 

ugh...seriously? That's it? ><

 

Yup. Though you can't blame the head writer for it since it was beyond his control.

 

Complications from the lawsuit with the former writer, Ken Penders, forced Archie Comics to drop all his contributions from the series - which was basically its entirety. Since Archie no longer owns them and SEGA doesn't want anything to do with Penders (due to another lawsuit he was involved with), they decided to completely scrap the old continuity in favor of a reboot instead.

 

Unfortunately, the impact of Penders laying claim of his old creations seems to have brought an end to the Archie licensed series in general. It's anyone's guess if the new publisher will resume the comic from where it last left off.

 

 

IDW have a good enough track record when it comes to allowing creators to finish off/continue their run on a licensed comic. They brought in Simon Furman (and his creative team of artists) to do Transformers: Regeneration One which allowed Furman to finish off what he had planned with the old Marvel TF title. And Larry Hama, who penned Marvel's G.I. JOE: A Real American Hero comic was allowed to continue on where that title left off, with that title still going on to this day.

 

IDW might (and will most likely) start off fresh with their Sonic title, but I wouldn't put it past them to allow Flynn to either continue on or bring about closure to the old Archie continuity. The only obstruction I can see in that path might be Sega not giving it the okay.


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 07:23 AM

The reboot thing didn't bother me so much (comic fan, after all), but that arc just...stops.

"He turned me into a robot!"
"A ROBOT?!?!"
"..."
"..."
"..."
"I got better..."

Well, here's hoping IDW keeps the Princess around.  


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 03:14 PM

"I remember everything."

 

"What do you remember?"

 

"I legally can't say but now that I've lampshaded it we can move on with this new story and also cross over with Megaman again."



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 06:36 PM

That too.  The Mega Man Crossovers kinda took up too much time.  It wasn't a bad story, but it wasn't timed well and for those who weren't interested, they just kinda had to deal with it.  

 

I wish Crossover events in comics would always be substories or stand-alone stories.  I don't like having to pick up another comic subscription to get the full story.  



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 06:47 PM

yeah, omg...I hated reading the Megaman crossover, but I was afraid I'd miss something so I had to keep going.  It wasn't that bad, honestly, but it was like watching Jar Jar prance around while you want to see lightsabers

 


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 03:14 AM

Wonderful analogy. Stupid gungan.... I shared your disappointment.



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 09:03 PM

It wasn't that bad, honestly, but it was like watching Jar Jar prance around while you want to see lightsabers

 

Wonderful analogy. Stupid gungan.... I shared your disappointment.

 

Eh. At least the "Clone Wars" series gave him a badass moment in which his ineptitude destroys Mother Talzin (one of the franchise's creepiest villains) forever.

 

I can safely say I wasn't expecting that. Unless you're one of those conspiracy theorists who believes his clumsiness to be a mere act of masked villainy.



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 01:38 PM

The problem I had with the Mecha Sally storyline is that it really did not change anything and had reasonably low stakes. Sally as a robot quickly lost any menacing presence after Sonic was able to repeatedly damage her with ease, and each time became less and less upset about it to the point where she started to be treated as just another Metal Sonic. Amy filled in her shoes on the team with ease, with nothing changing among the Freedom Fighter operations. I'm not sure where her storyline would have gone had things gone as originally planned, but it was getting rather boring.



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:08 PM

I found it really tense.  Sally was always the brains of the operations and she was able to outsmart the FFs against her a few times.  Made sense to me.  It was overlong, though. Feels like 20+ issues took place over the course of a day and so many other story lines just getting in the way. 

It also was kinda nice to reconnect with the book for a little while and see where everything got to.


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Posted 19 August 2017 - 09:15 AM

Except the fact that Mecha Sally was not able to do do anything than to stall for time so Eggman could get away or be used as a bargaining chip. If she say was able to lay siege to Mobotropolis or help secure the robotisization of some captured citizens it would be a very impactful note on her time as a robot. Had I been Ian I'd have made Mecha Sally tip the scales in Eggman's favor up until the very end until he inevitable derobotisization.



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Posted 19 August 2017 - 11:12 AM

Except the fact that Mecha Sally was not able to do do anything than to stall for time so Eggman could get away or be used as a bargaining chip. If she say was able to lay siege to Mobotropolis or help secure the robotisization of some captured citizens it would be a very impactful note on her time as a robot.

Actually it would have totally Over Powered her.  Sally isn't super strong or fast, and her only amazing power is her brain, being super intelligent.  Since she was no longer able to think or plan on her own, her brain power is nullified.  This makes her no better than a regular robian.  

 

This is part of the reason for Robotnik Weaponizing her.  



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Posted 19 August 2017 - 06:37 PM

But wasn't the weaponization of her was to make her overpowered to stand up to Sonic?



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Posted 19 August 2017 - 07:07 PM

He doesn't really say.  He just takes her, upgrades her, and then sends her off to fight.


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Posted 20 August 2017 - 01:27 PM

But wasn't the weaponization of her was to make her overpowered to stand up to Sonic?

 

He doesn't really say.  He just takes her, upgrades her, and then sends her off to fight.

And yet he pawns off a new Metal Sonic to back her up.  He weaponizes her to make her able to fight.  It's also a demoralizing tactic.  

 

Also remember the Weaponization was originally intended to explain her redesign later.  




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