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Well the player base went up exponentially since the switch.

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Probably to help Bungie now that Activision's money isn't backing them.

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Destiny made the move to Steam.

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We'll probably see Tracer soon

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I'm more surprised about the Fatal Fury character.

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Really wasn't keen on the idea of Sans being playable, but I guess he's in the same vein as Ness/Lucas

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I think it works.

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So...Sans is a Mii Gunner costume for Smash. Comments?

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"Finally, the Knux...HAS COME BACK...to Angel Island!"

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Strangely I can see it.

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Imagine Dwayne Johnson voicing Knuckles...

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The Rock has come back? XP

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http://www.sonicsatam.com/sea3on/ finally...

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We are in talk with background artists actually...

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some traditional cel painted backgrounds would be lovely.

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Is their any plans on what might be added if the budget reaches a certain quota?


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#21 zakfett92

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 11:50 AM

Fellow fans of the Sonic the Hedgehog comic, I write this entry in order to make a difference in the comic’s future. As you all know, most of the fans have heard by now of the lawsuit between Ken Penders and Archie Comics over the use of his characters. Whether Ken Penders was in the right or not is not the issue however. What matters is Archie’s stance on not using his characters.

 

Like many of you, I thought that Ken Penders was to blame because he was holding his characters back. Having enjoyed the comic for years, I was devastated. Like many of you no doubt have, I grew to love the original characters he created. Sure, Ian Flynn may not have developed them as Ken would have, but at least they were still around and would probably go in the right direction eventually. But the idea of never seeing any of those characters again is intolerable. And not only would we never see them again, but the comic would act as if they, along with 20 years of Sonic mythos, never happened in the first place. Just so some of you get a proper grasp of the situation, here’s a short list of characters we’ll never see again if Archie has its way:

 

Julie-Su, Elias Acorn, any Dark Legion characters, all of Knuckles’ family, Sonic’s parents, Rob o’ the Hedge, Remington, the extended wolf pack, Saffron, Fiona Fox, Geoffrey and Hershey St. John, Lara-Su

 

Not willing to let this stand, I went directly to Ken Penders to try to get him to loosen his grip on his characters. The results of our conversation you can read below:

 

Dear Mr. Penders,

 Hello, Mr. Penders. My name is Zachary Kaplan. I've been reading the Sonic comics ever since the age of ten and am a huge fan. Or at least, I was. Which brings me to why I'm writing this email. At the expense of possibly sounding rude, I must speak my mind because I feel it's the right thing to do.

 I want to know what the hell you think you're doing. Because of this whole lawsuit business, we'll never see any of the characters you made in the comic again. No Dark Legion, no Elias, no Geoffrey, NO JULIE-SU!!!!!!!!! My God, you took away Knuckles' and Sonic's parents, for crying out loud!!! How are they supposed to explain that. And to top it all off, you've now rendered over 15 years of story meaningless because now they have to act like those characters never existed. Why should any of us old fans keep reading now that everything we've come to love has been destroyed?

 And for what?

 Because you wanted more money? Because you couldn't just let your characters go? Was that really all that mattered to you? Even if you did create them, I don't see how that gives you the right to just steal them back out of the blue. These characters have had such an impact on the comic that they've outgrown belonging to any one person, even their creator. If Walt Disney was around today and he decided to leave the business, do you think he would try to take Mickey Mouse with him?

 And before you start talking about your "Lara-Su Chronicles", save it. I don't care about that, and neither does anyone else. And if you think its gonna be a big success, you're only fooling yourself; which you'd know if you bothered listening to the fans. Even if people did read it, they wouldn't see new characters with new original stories. All they would see is old Sonic characters that were taken from them and are now being recycled by someone who doesn't know any better.

 That's pretty much all I've got to say on the subject. The comic is in ruins and we'll never see your characters in a "proper" comic again, and from where I'm standing it's all your fault. I don't know what has to be done to make you give your characters back, but I strongly suggest you figure out what if saving the comic means anything to you. There has to be some sentimentality under your money-grubbing exterior; and I sincerely hope you find it before it's too late.

 Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Zachary Kaplan

 

Zachary,

 

Let's imagine you're someone who grew up wanting to be a writer, an artist, a musician, a filmmaker, whatever. You took courses to learn what you needed in order to become someone who could make a living doing what you love. Now imagine doing that work for a number of years and seeing others get money for the work instead of you. You wouldn't like it and that's what essentially happened here. If Archie and/or Sega had paid even a small amount in royalties, none of what happened would have happened.

 

But companies aren't like that in this day and age. More often than not, it's the people at the top of the food chain who benefit the most at the expense of those who actually did the work and brought value to the companies simply because they can. And the only way the people who actually do the work can correct the situation is if they fight back in some manner, whether it be a strike or some legal action.

 

As you may know, Archie and I have resolved our differences, and as a result, they are able to use my characters. However, THEY choose NOT to. Why? That's not for me to speculate as that's an internal business decision and their right.

 

As for those stories and characters you grew up on, you'll always have those, just as I have the stories I grew up on. However, as I have learned over the years, especially so during the past decade, even the characters I grew up on have changed much as the SONIC book as changed on you. So the new STAR TREK is nothing like the original to me. And yes, in a way, I'm sad over that. But I still have the original Trek stories I grew up on and no one can take those away from me.

 

In all honesty, the book was never going to develop the library of characters I created anyway, so readers were really never going to experience their true potential unless someone did something with them.

 

Archie had a chance to resolve the situation many times where they would have control over these characters, yet ended up not doing so for whatever reason. I was able to reclaim my characters under current copyright laws, and now intend to feature the characters as they should have been shown.

 

If you really love the characters, you may end up surprising yourself checking out THE LARA-SU CHRONICLES. If you still feel the characters belong in SONIC and nowhere else, I understand and wish you well. Take care.

 

Best,

Ken Penders

 

 

Dear Mr. Penders,

 I think apologies are in order; my apologies, that is. It appears that due to how distraught I was over this whole matter, and a certain amount of misinformation, I ended up getting angry at the wrong person. Instead of lashing out at you, I should have been doing it at Archie. I'm sorry if I seemed rude. I was simply doing what I felt was right. I had thought that if you were the one holding the characters back, I might be able to guilt you into letting them go. Looks like I have another email to send; this one aimed at the right target. Though the idea of guilting an entire company into using your characters does seem a much harder task. But, for the sake how much the comic means to myself, and others, I feel that I have to try. The idea of Sonic the Hedgehog, not only without your characters, but acting as if they never existed, is intolerable. I really don't know how they expect to pull it off. Hell, after all this chaos, Knuckles has, in one fell swoop, been rendered:

1) parentless
2) girlfriendless
3) future daughterless
4) speciesless

I think the only echidna characters besides him that you didn't create are Dr. Finitevas and maybe Grandfather Athair. And there were many other main characters who lost family members due to this debacle. Sonic lost both his parents; Sally lost her mother and brother (and in turn Mobius lost it's true king); and Antoine lost his father (I mean, he had died, but now it's like he never existed).

 And I do understand what you mean about wanting to get paid for your work. I hope to write fantasy books and would want to get proper payment for it too. My problem was that I thought you were sitting back watching the comic implode for the sake of a few bucks. I was wrong, it seems. I will say that I don't think you're right about how they're not your characters anymore because of the way they changed. After all, everyone changes with time; so, if anything, it made your characters more dynamic and real. Though I will admit I was a bit pissed off when they made Geoffrey a traitor and Naugus' apprentice. But, they did make it seem that he regretted it later on. Unfortunately we'll never know how that would have played out unless either myself or someone better than I can make Archie change it's mind. Who knows, perhaps I'll need your help in order to make that happen.

 As to the Lara-Su chronicles, maybe it will work out, but I don't think I'll get involved. I'd just keep thinking of who the characters used to be rather than how you portrayed them now. And I think others will as well. After all, how are you gonna have Lara-Su without Knuckles as her dad? It just wouldn't feel right.

Anyway, thank you again for your time and, again, I apologize. Now it looks like I have someone else to fight the good fight against. As the blue blur himself would say, "Let's do it to it".

Sincerely,
Zachary Kaplan

 

Zachary,

 

Apologies accepted, but I was not mad or upset by your e-mail. I fully understood where you were coming from, and I'm fully aware of how much misinformation is out there on the internet.

 

I'll tell you what. I don't expect fans to embrace THE LARA-SU CHRONICLES when they love things the way they are or don't think it's possible because I can't use Knuckles. That's why I'm releasing the opening segment online when it's ready for free, just so those longtime fans can see how the story moves forward where MOBIUS: 25 YEARS LATER left off in SONIC #144.

 

I'm willing to bet that if those fans who loved those characters and enjoyed that story are going to be in for a pleasant surprise. The major difference is that I know these characters, I know this story and I know what the fans expect. I believe if I more than meet them halfway, they'll give me a chance.

 

As for the big concern about contradicting what happens in the comic, that's not my focus, and if anything, I made the story so the fans don't feel like they wasted time with either version. It's all good.

 

On a more realistic note, I wish you well in your efforts with Archie, but I've already been approached by fans who even wanted to start a Kickstarter fund to license my characters, which I provided my terms which they thought were more than fair, yet to date as far as I know, neither Archie or Sega has responded to their efforts. It's going to take a lot of you to change their minds into doing something they don't want to do.

 

In the meantime, I wish you well. Take care.

 

Best,

Ken Penders

 

 

So, my fellow Sonic comic fans, the truth is that Ken Penders is not the one responsible for the characters not being in the comic anymore. It is the fault of Archie comics itself. They have full rights to use these characters, yet have refused to do so. Seeing as how Ken’s characters were one of the best things about the comic, I don’t see how they feel they can pull this off.

 

My only question is will we let them.

 

As I’ve said, the idea of this comic without these characters is intolerable. And I imagine many, if not all, of you feel the same as I do. And I say that if you feel as I do, we can fight this. I’ll admit, it won’t be easy, and we probably won’t see any immediate results, but we can fight this. We can flood Archie with emails and letters letting them know we won’t stand for this. If any of you are video-makers on Youtube or elsewhere, you can spread this news that way. I will personally be sending this message to all the Sonic sites I can in order to get the message out. However, I strongly suggest that anyone who sends Archie messages keep the cursing down to the minimum. We don’t want to lose credibility due to what may be considered a lack of civility.

 

Again, I implore you; if you love this comic and love Ken’s characters, don’t let this pass. If we can get Archie to change its mind, we can ensure the last 20 years of comics were not for nothing. If necessary, they can reboot the reboot. After all, the Genesis wave has already been used twice already. You know what they say, “three’s the charm”. So please, don’t let Archie win. Because if this continues, I see only ruin for the comic’s future. So please, fight for Ken’s characters. Fight Archie. And pray to the Almighty we win.

 

Zachary Kaplan



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 12:41 PM

I don't want to be rude... But, Ken's messages are truly misleading you. If you don't believe me, then ask Ian Flynn yourself. Ian told me before, when Ken post his statement like "Archie has the rights to use any of my characters" are truly misleading. I'm sure Ian and Archie wants to use Ken's characters, but, there's one problem: It cost a lot of money to use one of his characters from Ken's copyright rules.. and besides, Ken wants to have full control of his characters.. that's why Archie refused to use any of his characters for now.

 

And one more thing, if you want to send Ian Flynn a message, then contract him: http://ianpotto.deviantart.com/

 

Also, sometimes he doesn't check his messages, because he got a lot of fan mail... so good luck contacting him ;)  



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 02:59 PM

Uh...I got a large wall of black in the middle of your post....are you using black text? 



#24 furrykef

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 05:35 PM

He is. Hit ctrl+a to highlight all text on the page and you can read it.

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 05:15 PM

Preach it.

 

 

I don't want to be rude... But, Ken's messages are truly misleading you. If you don't believe me, then ask Ian Flynn yourself. Ian told me before, when Ken post his statement like "Archie has the rights to use any of my characters" are truly misleading. I'm sure Ian and Archie wants to use Ken's characters, but, there's one problem: It cost a lot of money to use one of his characters from Ken's copyright rules.. and besides, Ken wants to have full control of his characters.. that's why Archie refused to use any of his characters for now.

Well here is the thing, why did Penders say that ACP told him that the terms he laid down were "very generous"?

 

As for if the characters return or not, the only correct answer is that we don't know. I know things may LOOK bad, but remember that a non-disclosure agreement in involved. And maybe, just maybe there are a few details that we are unaware of that could turn this whole situation in its head.

 

Either that or another lawsuit will turn things around or Penders will go so broke he will have to give back everything and retire.

 

Plus I've been told that the REAL reason why they won't use these characters is because they are afraid that it would give Penders leverage in future lawsuits. But maybe when the legal storm dies down we might have more of a chance. And maybe we were only lead to believe this "reboot" is here to stay because they don't want to have Penderman bring them back into court, even if they do win. A necessary lie, in other words ACP is pulling an "ARGO" on us. But yeah, that's just a possibility and not the confirmed truth.


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:17 AM

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 05:48 AM

https://twitter.com/...9720448/photo/1

Is this what autism feels like?

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http://youtu.be/lkErycB4Ahg?t=4s

 

and

 


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:59 AM

I say this with no doubt in my mind, this is one of the worst things I have ever seen in my f***ing life.

 

Can't we just go back to that artwork from the 2011 preview? Yes that's not good artwork, but it just keeps getting worse and WORSE, I didn't even think that was possible!!! Man, oh man, when in this comes out...oh god I can't even imagine what that will be like, I can't wait to see how much of a trainwreck this will become because believe me, I think we've just barely got ever started. Hahaha, oh...WOW.


Seriously, HOW THE HELL did nobody know that Robotnik was evil!? I mean just look at those red, glowing, hellish eyes, oh yeah I can completely trust that guy with my life! *sarcasm*

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 12:48 PM

Ye gods.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 06:55 PM

Oh god it looks worse every fucking time I so much as glance at it. I look away for 5 minutes, think "how bad is it again?" and I look and it looks worse every single time. My brain can't handle this so it makes it look better in my head the instant I look at something else. I don't want to look directly at it anymore.



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 04:42 PM

*(stupidly) clicks on Shadow's link*

 

:horror:

 

Words cannot describe that abomination...and I have no way to unsee it!

*shudders* Those teeth...

:whyowhy:

 

If -that- incarnation of Lien-Da and Smough were the only two contestants in a beauty contest, Smough would win.

 

*pour Brain Bleach into her ear*

 

I say this with no doubt in my mind, this is one of the worst things I have ever seen in my f***ing life.

 

Can't we just go back to that artwork from the 2011 preview? Yes that's not good artwork, but it just keeps getting worse and WORSE, I didn't even think that was possible!!!

I didn't think it was possible either until I saw that "update" :crying3:


 
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Posted 10 May 2014 - 05:02 PM

Penders keeps saying on his twitter page that he was "the savior of the comics"


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. -Colossians 3:13


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 07:09 PM

So I guess we can add Messiah Complex to his list of personality flaws. As if that list needed any lengthening.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 07:14 PM

Also on a sadder note, he's on unemployment checks, hasnt worked since '09and has about $500 in savings left


The Scribes, if anyone wants to join a growing community. Ask me if you want to know more.

 

“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. -Colossians 3:13


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:11 PM

Gee, I wonder why nobody wants to hire him.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 10:46 PM

Also on a sadder note, he's on unemployment checks, hasnt worked since '09and has about $500 in savings left

Wait a minute, how do you know this. He has more in common with Chris Chan than I thought.

 

But on the other hand this will make it easier for us than I thought.


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Posted 13 May 2014 - 04:48 AM

 

Also on a sadder note, he's on unemployment checks, hasnt worked since '09and has about $500 in savings left

Wait a minute, how do you know this. He has more in common with Chris Chan than I thought.

 

But on the other hand this will make it easier for us than I thought.

 

 

TSSZ had a story about it and it was one of the points Tristan made (http://www.tssznews....s-vs-the-world/)

 

But he's seriously driving himself to the ground on something thats not even guaranteed to work

 

And why do i have a feeling that you're gonna use this as apart of your "Save Archie" 'movement'


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“Some say that he is the only man in history to buy a DFS sofa when there wasn’t a sale on, and that his favourite boxing venue is Munich airport. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

“Some say that if you hold him in the wrong way he doesn’t work properly, and that just very recently he developed an irrational hatred of Rubens Barrichello. All we know is he’s called the Stig.”

 

Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. -Colossians 3:13


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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:48 AM

 

And why do i have a feeling that you're gonna use this as apart of your "Save Archie" 'movement'

 

Uncalled for.  



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:44 PM

 

 

And why do i have a feeling that you're gonna use this as apart of your "Save Archie" 'movement'

 

Uncalled for.  

 

Indeed. But you know what? This means we can outlast Penders. We will go on, but he will not. Victory should be all but assured.


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Posted 16 May 2014 - 06:48 PM

The management may merge this into a preexisting topic if they see fit.

 

Accord to a poll somewhere 70% of the People blame Penders for this whole mess, and I am one of them. But what about the other 30%? These people say it was ARCHIE'S fault for refusing to pay Penders royalties, and they're removing characters just because they don't want to pay him. The publisher, on the hand, has insisted since he is a freelance writer they do not have to pay him royalties according to his contract.

 

I want to know where you think the truth lies on this.


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