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@  Wulfsbane : (05 October 2019 - 11:05 PM)

Well the player base went up exponentially since the switch.

@  wildfire : (05 October 2019 - 08:39 PM)

Probably to help Bungie now that Activision's money isn't backing them.

@  Wulfsbane : (03 October 2019 - 06:33 AM)

Destiny made the move to Steam.

@  Wulfsbane : (09 September 2019 - 10:12 AM)

We'll probably see Tracer soon

@  Shadow : (06 September 2019 - 10:48 PM)

I'd rather see Mai in Smash

@  Wulfsbane : (06 September 2019 - 09:05 AM)

I'm more surprised about the Fatal Fury character.

@  Wulfsbane : (06 September 2019 - 08:00 AM)

Really wasn't keen on the idea of Sans being playable, but I guess he's in the same vein as Ness/Lucas

@  Wulfsbane : (06 September 2019 - 08:00 AM)

I think it works.

@  GamemasterAn... : (05 September 2019 - 06:53 AM)

So...Sans is a Mii Gunner costume for Smash. Comments?

@  Wulfsbane : (31 August 2019 - 08:00 PM)

Alright, AEW's All Out was pretty freaking good.

@  Wulfsbane : (20 August 2019 - 06:22 AM)

The Knux will Layeth the Smacketh Down all over your Candy Ass!

@  GamemasterAn... : (20 August 2019 - 05:59 AM)

"Finally, the Knux...HAS COME BACK...to Angel Island!"

@  Wulfsbane : (19 August 2019 - 07:26 PM)

Strangely I can see it.

@  Shadow : (18 August 2019 - 10:39 PM)

Imagine Dwayne Johnson voicing Knuckles...

@  Wulfsbane : (17 August 2019 - 02:31 PM)

The Rock has come back? XP

@  chief : (17 August 2019 - 02:26 PM)

http://www.sonicsatam.com/sea3on/ finally...

@  Wulfsbane : (17 August 2019 - 07:40 AM)

Good to hear.

@  chief : (13 August 2019 - 07:27 PM)

We are in talk with background artists actually...

@  Shadow : (13 August 2019 - 12:54 AM)

some traditional cel painted backgrounds would be lovely.

@  Shadow : (13 August 2019 - 12:54 AM)

Is their any plans on what might be added if the budget reaches a certain quota?


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#41 MoonPrincess07

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:47 PM

Personally, I like that it's darker. For me it holds more appeal. Things get dull if there's continuous good luck or successes. Failures and challenges lead to better successes in the long run. For example, Eggman's failed a lot, correct? He's bound to have some sort of success.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:05 PM

No!

Geez

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:13 PM

I vaguely remember people complaining it was too light hearted not too long ago....

There is no pleasing some fans.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:41 PM

There's certainly no pleasing all of them. Decent art is not made by committee.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:05 PM

Sega mandates keep them protected, but they've gone through a fair amount of abuse as well. The only one with permanent retirement has been Rotor, which was unfortunate but also sort of inevitable. If you really like Snively, then you definitely want SU 37. Instead of biting the bullet, he seems to have things looking up for him.


Which is kinda odd that given the 'inevitable' switch-over, I can't recall Tails actually showcasing any of that tech talent in a significant way beyond that arc he got in SU....

There's certainly no pleasing all of them. Decent art is not made by committee.


Hoo boy, ain't that one the truth.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:47 PM

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I feel like this is asking the wrong question.

First off, to my mind, the answer is "No". I realize a lot of bad things are happening, and to characters we care about, but if we step back, I think it's safe to say this isn't exactly new in the broad sense. In point of fact, since at least the "End Game" arc, we've encountered elements of what's going on right now all over the place in the comic's history. Destroyed homes, characters we know and love wounded or even killed, the Bad Guys taking an edge for once...has it ever happened in quite this concentrated, affecting a fashion before? No, I suppose not, but then again I don't think that's quite the same thing as it being "darker" and "grittier" than before.

More importantly, though, I feel like the elements of strife and loss that people are reacting to in the comics right now are, in fact, established and proven storytelling concepts. I want you to think of just about any given Dramatic story you've ever been emotionally invested in; "Star Wars", "The Lord of the Rings", "Fullmetal Alchemist", "Sailor Moon", "Gargoyles", "Avatar: The Last Airbender", or whatever strikes your fancy. In just about every example I listed, and I'm willing to bet in quite a few examples you can think of, there are in fact large periods of time where the tide turns decisively against the Good Guys, where they and their friends are made to suffer or struggle against seemingly hopeless circumstances. These bouts of adversity are frequently a crucial part, not only of defining and heightening the stakes of the story, but of developing and strengthening the characters, potentially in new and unexpected directions. So I don't entirely buy that what Flynn's doing with the comic right now is especially "dark" or "gritty", when really it's just a long-standing aspect of telling stories of a particular nature.

All that said, I'm not 100% on-board with how things are unfolding right now either. The thing of it is, it's not because it's too dark; for me, it's because the story is in fact taking all of this way too lightly. Sally's been Roboticized? Oh wow, that's a shame, but no time to dwell on that, Naugus is taking over the Kingdom! Wow, shocking, but the city's being blown up now, so we can't worry about that! There's just not a strong enough sense of emotion or impact to all of it, to me, because the story refuses to slow down, even for a second, to really focus on any of what's happening or how it's affecting the characters. Which isn't to say they haven't done it at all, and part of why I ultimately do feel the arc's working overall so far is because of those brief moments where we see the toll this is taking on our heroes. I just wish we got a bit more of that.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:56 PM

Someone on DA already posted what happens in 234, and trust me, when i read it, i got really pissed off

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:12 PM

Today is Friday, February 24, 2012, the time is 11:45 AM.

Greetings fellow Sonic fans, I want to start off by apologizing first of all for making it sound like I have not been standing in the middle as I've been saying. Secondly I want to apologize for what apparently will probably be another long wall of text (as some of you see it).

Now onto the reason for the first apology. You have to understand that I was about 14 years old when I discovered the Saturday morning cartoon of Sonic The Hedgehog, it was also around this time that I also discovered the comic book being published by Archie comics. Now you fast-forward 20 years later or nearly 20 years later and as most of you can tell I am still a fan of the overall franchise. From what I have said in previous posts and of other means of communication, I may have sounded like I didn't care for what Ian Flynn had done. Now I won't lie to you, I am among many that are not too happy with what Ian Flynn did to Princess Sally. However I can respect and understand that the comic book does need to be shaken up every now and then, and that the heroes at times must face and deal with dark days ahead of them.

The problem though that I along with many others have with this is that we understand and respect the fact as I mentioned above that the characters and stories in the comic need a good dark shakeup once in a while, the thing is though we're used to seeing that occur for about 4 to 5 issues at the most, and if necessary as in the case of the Iron Dominion story arc for up to a year, we however and I know some of you may and may not agree are not used to dealing with something like this for which is schudle to be about two years.

It is true that in most comic books that when you reach your 250th issue that you want to do something spectacular, you want to do something memorable, something that it will have people talking for years to come. And with all due respect I can understand why Ian Flynn would want to do that, I mean with the comic book itself entering its 20th anniversary in 2013, wanting to cap that off in a big way is understandable. But many feel that Ian Flynn could have done everything he's doing now story wise by not turning Sally into a robot and putting Antoine quite possibly on deaths door. As a matter of fact they feel he could have gone in a different direction and yet could have gotten the same results. Again I respect and understanding the some you may and may not agree with that, and that's okay.

However when you get a fan as long-time as myself and those that I have mentioned in previous posts, you have to understand and I know I sound like a broken record here, but you have to understand that were not used to seeing these characters in these predicaments especially if it's going to last till next year.
Now one of you here at these message boards pointed out the fact that I am in my 30s and that I shouldn't be obsessed over something that is happened to a fictional character. The truth of the matter is I'm not obsessed, like I said above, I've been a fan for over 20 years or at least going on 20 years, and in those 20 years no matter who wrote the character, no matter who drew the characters design, no matter how much the character evolved and changed, I've been used to seeing them as they are. Now this also goes for other fans that are in the 30s, heck even the fans that are in their 40s and beyond, you can even add fans that in there in the 20s, and they will all agree with the fact that no matter who wrote the character, no matter who drew the character, and no matter how much that character changed over the past 19 to 20 years, we've been mostly used to seeing them as they are/were.

You sit there and you probably read this and say, "Well Brian, in 1999 they changed Amy Rose's design when they did Sonic Adventure, so what's the big deal?" The big deal is the fact that if we were given any clue on hint that are design change for the character was coming, it would have come a long time ago. You know what's funny is that there is a artist over at the DA site who as of today uploaded and posted a picture of Nagus changing Sally back to normal like he did Bunnie, but because of the modifications that were done to Sally as a robot, the end result was Sally and what many could see coming and could be a possibility in a Sega style design. Now looking at the condition that she's in now in the comics, that little comic that this person drew could be a sign of things to come.

Getting back on topic though, many say that this comic book is an all ages comic and its because of that, that people like myself who are in the 30s and maybe even beyond that or below that, have a right to say what we feel about what's going on as well as we have a right to want to create anti-group's on things we don't like.

I do however understand that some you like the dark atmosphere that the comic is currently in and that you cannot wait to see what happens next, believe me I understand we're coming from that, but being the long-time fan that I am and even though I will resubscribe starting next week for another year and even though I may not open the issues I receive, it does not mean that I will not stand in the middle, for you see that is exactly what I'm doing, it's just that with what happened to the Sally character and what's happening with Antoine possibly, these are just a few things that I'm against, everything else I stand in the middle for.

Now you probably want an explanation on that. Okay I understand, here it is, when I figured out along with everyone else that Sally was going to be robotisized, I made a promise to myself that untill the whole thing is resolved and she is return to normal that I would not open one single issue of the comic that I receive in the mail, I also stated that I would not do any reviews if you will untill the whole thing is over. Now what this means is technically I'm standing in the middle to see exactly where Ian Flynn will take this story arc and also because I've been a longtime fan of the character I do not want to read an issue of the comic with her robotisized, now true I do own the 29th issue, but as somebody pointed out on one of these forms, her being a robot in that issue was for that issue only, it wasn't at the level that it's at right now. Some of you will probably read this and continuously look at me as a Sally fan boy, truth be told I am a fan of the character but I'm not a obsessive fan. Yes I do own one of the rare Sally plushes, but that's about it. The thing is I just don't like what's happened to her.

What's happened to her is kind of the equivalent of let's say your favorite NFL team getting screwed in the playoffs and you refusing to watch the rest of the playoffs because of that. I know that's a strange example but you kind of get hopefully what I'm getting at.

In closing let me say this, yes I'm a fan of Sally and yes I am a fan of Antoine and yes I'm a fan, long-time fan of the Saturday morning cartoon just like anybody else, however I am not obsessive and I do stand in the middle and even those that stand in the middle can have dislikments of what they see, in other words we get to stand/sit on the sidelines and watch what happens but we do not have to like what has happened to certain characters involved.

So hopefully and I don't know if it will help, this straightened things out.

Friday, February 24, 2012, ending time at around 12:32 PM

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:01 PM

Just got access to 234 myself

I wouldn't mind the overall arc of the plot, if any of the details about what was motivating the key players made the slightest fucking sense

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:09 PM

I don't think it's to Dark in the moment.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 12:28 PM

Monday, February 27, 2012
time 11:03 AM

Believe it or not, the video/topic I did has not yet been posted on any of these message boards, yes surprising I know, but I figured why not post a written version first and then if it allows me to just post the link to the video version afterwards, and that's what I plan to do after this possibly long written version of said video/topic. So here we go with the topic I like to call "If it weren't for Sega's mandates, things would be different in Archie's Sonic comic book series no doubt!"


I understand that this has probably been brought up several times on various Sonic message boards and websites. However I have yet to give my two cents on it. So that's exactly what I'm going to do here. Now the things I will say some you may and may not agree on but trust me when I talk about them you'll probably understand and agree that if it wasn't for Sega sticking their nose into the comic as often as they do from what many fans and even comic book critics themselves have said and pointed out that they do, then there's no doubt that things and characters in the comic would all be on an equal basis.


It's hard to believe that despite all the differences that we as a overall fanbase have with each other, the one constant that we can agree on, is that Sega needs to stop sticking their nose into the comic book and its spinoffs, and allow the writers to create development for each and every character no matter if they're from a cartoon series, if they're originally made for the comic itself, or even if they're the exclusive game characters that we all know and play as when any kind of Sonic game is released to the public.


I mean when you look at how much more interesting and more developed characters and the environments they inhabit could be if Sega didn't stick their nose and mandate certain things, the comic overall in the eyes of many would be more enjoyable than as some put it it is right now. The reason being is because you could allow not just the cartoon and the comic exclusive characters to develop even more so, even if we don't like a certain way of how their being developed currently, but it would allow the game characters themselves to have more development even if it's just for the comic book and it's spinoff.


I mean characters like Amy Rose could have more development in character if Sega didn't mandate to Archie comics that she don't be changed much from her game counterpart. Now some fans would agree with these mandates, while others won't and especially if it comes to a character like Amy who does have her share of fans, then there is no doubt that more can be done with her character. I mean as crazy as it sounds you could have had Amy be the one that got turned into a robot and by doing so in a character developing way it would show how much she cares not only for the planet but how much Sonic means to her and the way I see it it would probably create just as much drama and have just as much a long-lasting effect, probably just as much as Sally's current situation right now is having on the comic. But again this could have only happened if Sega didn't mandate and stick their nose in the comic as much as they do.


Another character that gets some development but not as much as he should, is Tails. Fans have said that if it wasn't for Sega and their mandates, that we could see more development in Tails's character. Development which could range from not just his intelligence for building and inventing things. That we could see more character development beyond that. Heck, one of the things fans question and wonder is if Tails would ever get in a relationship, and from what we have seen, and from what fans have speculated on, the possibilities of him having a girlfriend are endless, characters like Mina, Amy, and as crazy as it sounds, Nicole are a few names being thrown around. But yet Sega doesn't allow that to happen in the comic because of their mandates. True when it came to Sonic X, Tails did get a love interest, but it wasn't until the second half of the final season. And what's funny is in the second to last episode, unlike the uncut French and Japanese versions, Tails, vocally wasn't able to show the motion that he showed in the uncut versions in our 4kids American version. And again it goes back to Sega's mandates, which believe it or not upset a majority of the fans. And just like with the comic at times, you can put the blame if you will on Sega's mandates.


Other characters like Knuckles, Shadow, and even Rouge are limited in character development thanks to Sega's mandates on the comic. I mean there is so much more that can be done with these characters and yet Sega doesn't allow Archie comics or any of the writers on both comic books to do anything development wise. I mean sure, Knuckles is the exception in some areas, I mean he does have a girlfriend/soulmate in Julie-Su, but that's about it. The other two you could do so much more with in the comics, instead of just having them appear every now and then. Again however you can thank Sega's mandates.


And speaking of characters, it took what would be/felt like 6 to 7 years to get Cream and her mother Vanilla in the main comic. And what's funny is their debut came after Silver's debut in the main comic. And yet again all thanks to Sega's mandates.


Heck, one villain that fans want to see in the comic, is Eggman Nega. And with the exception of just his ship flying by in the first panel of the first issue of the "Treasure Team Tango" miniseries of the SU comic, we have yet to physically see him in any major role in the comic or it's spinoff. Which again you can blame Sega's mandates. Now I know some you will point out the fact that he appeared in a off panel parody on the last page of one of the SU comics, but have we seen him in any major story arc physically in the comic or the spinoff? Not from what I've seen. And yet again it's all thanks to Sega's mandates.


And speaking of this villain, let's talk about the one that opposes him, no not Sonic, but one of my personal favorites, Blaze. And yet again and I know I'm repeating myself saying that, but yet again thanks to Sega's mandates and what they say can be used and who could be used in the comic, Blaze is another character that only makes appearances every now and then, and there is so much more that can be done with her character and yet Sega because of their mandates and saying what can and can't be done, we're not allowed to see it become a reality. And the same goes for her sidekick and friend Marine, so much can be done with her even though she's a newer character, that a lot more can be done in the comic and spinoff, but yet because of their mandates we don't see it.


Then we come to the biggest one, their mascot, the one character that took their Corporation to levels it's never been to before, and the one character that is not allowed in the comic book and it's spinoff to have more development than he should. And of course I'm talking about Sonic. I mean with the current story arc in the main comic and in the spinoff, so much more emotional character development can be done with him. Now true we are seeing with the Sally situation, character development with him, emotional and as some see it on the verge of literally letting all his rage and anger come out. But yet we don't see much more. I mean wer're not even allowed to see him shed a tear here as much as he should during emotional moments. When the first season of the Saturday morning cartoon happened we only had one episode were he shed some tears, but then in the second to last episode of the second/final season at the end of that episode he has a saddened look on his face but yet we don't see no tears coming down and then we see him standing outside of his Uncle's hideout just waiting and that's it. And again all thanks to Sega's mandates.


This is the one thing many fans, despite their differences with each other feel needs to be changed. They will all agree and some won't though, but most will agree that Sega needs to stop sticking their nose in the comic book's business. As far as they are concerned, let the comic be it's own entity, don't continuously say what can be and what can't be used and let the writers have free range. Because by doing so it puts all characters and I mean ALL characters on equal ground and makes them all vanulable to the same events and situations that the cartoon and comic exclusive characters are vanuable too. Now again some fans may not agree with this, but I think overall many others will.


So in closing, that me say this, it only takes ONE to start a revolution, it only takes ONE to start a fire, and what this means is that it only takes ONE to cause Sega to stop sticking their nose in areas of their Sonic franchise that they do not need to stick into.

And that's all I can say about this issue.

Monday, February 27, 2012
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:00 AM

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In this tumultuous time of the comics, passions are running high. That's a good thing. I didn't set out to violently shake-up the status quo thinking it'd go over perfectly fine with everyone. I set out to upset and to unnerve, and thus far it's looks like I've succeeded. (Some folks out there are already guessing in the ballpark of my long-term plans, but you can only fool some of the people some of the time)

As upset as some readers are - and rightfully so - I will not tolerate a total lack of class. I've had folks contact me individually who've voiced their concern, even their anger, in clear terms without resorting to foul language and physical threats. Anger does not excuse such childishness. So if you can't make your point without without devolving into profanity, I'm hiding your comment. I'll read, it I'll keep it accessible so your point will remain, but I'm not cluttering up my front page with your filthy language.

As for what's going on in the book, I'm going to have to have as much patience as the readers. I know what's going to happen in the long run, and I know how this will all look when it's finished. I'm excited for you guys, because you get to experience the thrill of it month by month. Because of that, I can't explain what's happening, because that'll ruin the surprises I'm working on preparing for y'all.

The best comparison I can make (without totally spoiling the entire ride) is to the original Star War trilogy. In "Empire Strikes Back," Han is captured, Cloud City has been occupied by the Empire, Luke's been maimed and had his faith shattered, and the Rebellion has done pretty much nothing but lose for the entire movie. If it had ended there, I'd imagine there'd be some outcry - but it didn't. Fans of the series had faith in their heroes and believed that, somehow, they'd come back from all that. Likewise, the comic isn't stopping anytime soon. I'm doing my best to throw the heroes from the comfort zone they've lingered in for 250+ issues. Have a little faith that Mobius's greatest heroes can endure.

(Disclaimer: I realize "comfort zone" is a blanket statement, e.g. Sally's near-death in #50 and King Max's dissolving of the team, but I'm referring to the general sense of "The Freedom Fighters Never Lose (Big/In The End).")

Obviously this isn't going to satisfy everyone. Some of you will take this as me blowing smoke or placating, and I can't help that. Some are buckling in for the adventure, excited about what's to come (if a little unsure). Others don't want anything to happen to their favorites. There's no meeting in the middle on that one.

I've got grand, sweeping plans folks. This just the beginning.

And the usual reminders:
- I don't have time to correspond to every venue online while writing four books, so take it to the fourm:
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- Don't post full scans of issues, that's stealing. If you're outside the U.S./Canada, try working with your local book vendor or online shops (or the Sonic App - [link])

- this DA account is used for following a few artists and friends, and sometimes a piece of concept art. My online correspondence is focused on the Facebook Page/Twitter/Forum/Website - all of that accessible from here: [link]



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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:10 AM

'm doing my best to throw the heroes from the comfort zone they've lingered in for 250+ issues. Have a little faith that Mobius's greatest heroes can endure.


Right. The Iron Queen Arc didn't already do that.....

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:18 AM

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In this tumultuous time of the comics, passions are running high. That's a good thing. I didn't set out to violently shake-up the status quo thinking it'd go over perfectly fine with everyone. I set out to upset and to unnerve, and thus far it's looks like I've succeeded. (Some folks out there are already guessing in the ballpark of my long-term plans, but you can only fool some of the people some of the time)

As upset as some readers are - and rightfully so - I will not tolerate a total lack of class. I've had folks contact me individually who've voiced their concern, even their anger, in clear terms without resorting to foul language and physical threats. Anger does not excuse such childishness. So if you can't make your point without without devolving into profanity, I'm hiding your comment. I'll read, it I'll keep it accessible so your point will remain, but I'm not cluttering up my front page with your filthy language.

As for what's going on in the book, I'm going to have to have as much patience as the readers. I know what's going to happen in the long run, and I know how this will all look when it's finished. I'm excited for you guys, because you get to experience the thrill of it month by month. Because of that, I can't explain what's happening, because that'll ruin the surprises I'm working on preparing for y'all.

The best comparison I can make (without totally spoiling the entire ride) is to the original Star War trilogy. In "Empire Strikes Back," Han is captured, Cloud City has been occupied by the Empire, Luke's been maimed and had his faith shattered, and the Rebellion has done pretty much nothing but lose for the entire movie. If it had ended there, I'd imagine there'd be some outcry - but it didn't. Fans of the series had faith in their heroes and believed that, somehow, they'd come back from all that. Likewise, the comic isn't stopping anytime soon. I'm doing my best to throw the heroes from the comfort zone they've lingered in for 250+ issues. Have a little faith that Mobius's greatest heroes can endure.

(Disclaimer: I realize "comfort zone" is a blanket statement, e.g. Sally's near-death in #50 and King Max's dissolving of the team, but I'm referring to the general sense of "The Freedom Fighters Never Lose (Big/In The End).")

Obviously this isn't going to satisfy everyone. Some of you will take this as me blowing smoke or placating, and I can't help that. Some are buckling in for the adventure, excited about what's to come (if a little unsure). Others don't want anything to happen to their favorites. There's no meeting in the middle on that one.

I've got grand, sweeping plans folks. This just the beginning.

And the usual reminders:
- I don't have time to correspond to every venue online while writing four books, so take it to the fourm:
[link]
- Don't post full scans of issues, that's stealing. If you're outside the U.S./Canada, try working with your local book vendor or online shops (or the Sonic App - [link])

- this DA account is used for following a few artists and friends, and sometimes a piece of concept art. My online correspondence is focused on the Facebook Page/Twitter/Forum/Website - all of that accessible from here: [link]


That's a little sadistic in the beginning, but hey it's his job to suprise us(even thou there are some who aren't happy about it). Is it just me, or does he sounded abit butthurted at the beginning sure he has threats, but still.
The reason why nobody complained the plot twists in the Empire Strikes Back was because the Star Wars franchise been here for a few years at the time while the comics has been here for almost 19 years.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:44 AM

Hmmm, seeing as how this is turning out now, I'm interested to know what happens how. I've seen the Star wars movies, and trust me, each movie there was suspense, and excitement, as well as loss, but in the end, we all knew what happened. So seeing as how this is going, it'll be interesting to see what the turnabout is.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:58 AM

It's true that SEGA need to stop meddling the comics affairs, but there are down sides to freedom. For exapmle, most writers probably won't make a faithful follow up to SatAM and want to do their own thing. While interesting never thought ideas pop up from time to time, sometimes they would make extremely nonsensical, yet child friendly stories, writing characters off on- or off-panel with no rhyme nor reason, cringing dialoge, atrocious editorial(not SEGA) mandates, ridiculous endemic characters, extremely deviant from the source material into the point that is unrecognizable, etc. SEGA probably made mandates to prevent the comics from becoming the blacksheep of the franchise. You can argue Fleetway did their own thing and it went well. Well they did, but they have their own thorns when they did that like Bravehog, Timezone strips, and Amy and Tekno stories. Thou that is just me. If you don't believe me, then watch BlackDogBrew's Sonic the Comic retrospective part 25a.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:16 AM

In his latest journal at Deviantart, you have to wonder if this is another smokescreen or if it's all true.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 11:49 AM

There's certainly no pleasing all of them. Decent art is not made by committee.

Indeed.
*cringes as she recalls the work of "Many Hands"*

Too dark? Compared to what, I ask?

Too dark compared to Charmy's friend dying of food poisoning? Too dark compared to Sonic himself being roboticized and laying siege to Knothole and nearly dying? Too dark to flashbacks of the Great War showing Kodos coldly murdering a pair of scouts to guaruntee the war happening? Too dark compared to the frequent references to Genocide? Too dark compared to Monkey Khan's entire village being slaughtered in cruel experiments that only he ended up surviving? Too dark compared to Robotnik having Jules toss Bernie into the roboticizer and then roboticizing her as she begged for mercy? Too dark compared to NAugus possessing King Acorn and starting a civil war with the Robians that nearly caused the death of Uncle Chuck? Too dark compared to Dulcy ending up in an abusive relationship? Too dark compared to the NAzi-esque conquest of the Echidna by Kage Von Stryker and his Dingo Regime? Too dark compared to Antoine's father ending up poisoned to death by Patch? Too dark compared to Eggman essentially murdering Hope's family in front of her? Too dark compared to Endgame??


*nods* Very good point there. Lots of "dark" things have happened in the book long before Ian was working on it.

I would say, honestly, no, it is not. I am deeply irritated by all of the old show characters being out of the picture by this point thanks to one thing or the other, but I'm just going to wait and see things through before making a judgement call. Just because the consequences of events are starting to stick for more then an issue or too, does not make things automatically 'darker' or 'grittier'.

Heh. Welcome to the club. In light of the events in StH #234, I am now even more concerned about the possibility of the "old show characters" being put on the proverbial bus and driven away, never to be major players ever again.
 
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:50 PM

Mobius years later. What can be said about this topic. Many have felt that it is part of the Sonic comic books continuity. Well others say that it's not canon. Now both sides may be correct in some ways. For those that say that MXYL is part of the comic book continuity, they have valid points. As a matter of fact one fan over at a certain popular media site recently as of tonight did a 8 1/2 long minute theory on why they feel MXYL is part of the continuity in some ways. One of the things they bring up is the resurgence wars and the elemental wars that were discussed and talked about and briefly mentioned it if you will by Antoine and Bunnie's son Jaques in the last two to issues of the MXYL saga that was presented in the Sonic Universe comic.

You may ask yourself why this fan brought this theory up? Well from what they can see in the more recent events of the main comic and the SU comic, they feel there could be some truth behind it. The reason they think and theorize this belief, is because of what will be happening in future issues. One of the things they brought up was the Ancient Onyk aka the black chaos Emerald, for which Tikal and Chaos resided in. They feel that with this theory that this could be the beginning of the aforementioned wars that were briefly mentioned in the MXYL Saga. Which in turn they feel, from what I read, they feel could bring Tikal and Chaos together as Tikahos. Now I remind you that these are just theories that this fan over at this media site is thinking of, and feel could be closer to the truth and closer in connection to the MXYL then anyone could have thought.

I understand and I'm sure this fan understands that nobody will believe these theories. However there might be one theory or maybe two that they may agree on. What might those be you ask? Well the first one has to do with Snively and the missing blue chaos Emerald. For you see this fan feels that there is a connection between Snively and the missing Emerald. Because they believe that Snively has the missing Emerald. You may ask why that might be the case? According to this fan, Snively was the first one to report the Emerald missing, and most recently as of issue 234 and issue 37, has finally decided to take matters into his own hands and finally overthrow Dr. Eggman, as well as at the same time free his beloved Queen Regina. Now to me as somebody that read this theory, I have to agree with it. Because even though I have yet to open any of my subscription issues, from the summaries I have read and from the theories and predictions that I have watched and read, that have been provided by other fellow Sonic fans. When you piece these pieces of this very puzzle together, it all makes sense.

Now the final theory is actually a theory I talk about myself in a two-part audiovideo, but it seems that I'm not the only one. For you see just like those that have written about it and have talked about it, this theory has to do with one Hershey the Cat. Now of course many have speculated possibly the same theories and thoughts as this fellow fan has. And that being of course after 233 and even before that, that Ms. Hershey is alive and well and undercover as part of the Mobius South American Dark Legion. Now for those that ask why people may speculate this. It's because when you look at one of the upper panels in the mid pages of issue 37 you will see a female legionnaire being confronted by one of the grandmasters. And then you add in the description for issue 237 in a few months that a mysterious figure is tracking Sonic, Tails, and Amy, one can guess and wonder as to who that could truly be that is following them.

Now please understand that these are just theories that this fellow fan and friend of mine came up with tonight.

Now I did not mention all of what they said, you will have to read it yourself. But let's just say it has some to do with the 3 spirits that have awakened inside Ixis Nagus, as for the rest you have to read yourself.


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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:49 AM

Hershey is undercover in the Soumerca Legion. The solicit for 237 pretty much proves it, not that everybody didn't know by the time SU 37 came out.


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